...except that the U.S. also has 8 1/2 times our Population here in Canada...it could happen and it wouldn't be a shock, imo...
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...except that the U.S. also has 8 1/2 times our Population here in Canada...it could happen and it wouldn't be a shock, imo...
Luigi Lemieux
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Sure but it's also true the more nhl players the US creates the more elite players it'll create. National teams will look different if the NHL is made up of 40 or 50% Americans instead of the 29% it is today.
Zirakzigil
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I am not taking elite, I am talking generational/historical players. The players who can be talked about as the best of the best in history. Yes the USA will produce elite talent based on sheer numbers. But you need your best athletes in the sport to go after those history making players.
SettlementRichie10
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You’re right. America’s immense history of international athletic success applies to everything except hockey. You’re a genius.
Kids go into sports they’re good at, meaning sports they grow up playing. There is no culture of hockey in America like there is in Canada. Do you really deny this?
America has literally ten times the population as Canada and yet fewer youth hockey players.
Use all four of your brain cells and really think about that for a while. Then maybe you’ll understand I’m not denigrating Canada at all but rather criticizing American athletic choices.
It's where Mike Sullivan decided to chop up and destroy his line up by sitting Connor for Kreider. What an absolute clown of a coach.
Love the jab by Hagel.
I do wonder if JJ Watt would have been a great NHL player though.
...wasn't Connor under the weather??...isn't that why he sat for Kreider??...
He absolutely was not sick....wasn't Connor under the weather??...isn't that why he sat for Kreider??...
United States scratches Kyle Connor for Chris Kreider in 4 Nations final
The Americans’ leading NHL goal-scorer will watch the 4 Nations Face-Off final from the press box.
You have the top goal scorer for an American player and the biggest game and you put him in to show up, but instead they chose a bloke Sully played for 6 mins and was useless. Which is the most on brand Mike Sullivan thing to do.
But remember lads, that decision was JR, Hextall, and Dubas' fault, not Mike's.
Sky04
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"Immense history of international athletic success", tell me what global sports they play where they dominate?
No surprise they only excel at sports played within the US. Of the top-5 biggest sports in the world the US isn't even close to the top at any of them. Hmmm....
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BB79
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Maybe in another 4,000 years. Not many people in our country give a shit about hockey. What the NHL is to Canada, the NFL is to America. Even that changed, back in the 60s-80s baseball and basketball were the two most popular, then football overtook them.
Well, FWIW the population of Canada is about 40 million. The population of the US is about 347 million, about 8.6 times more people. Spot on.
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BruinsFan37
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Yup. You could see the trend 30 years ago, but nobody thought it was going to happen overnight.
Current trends predict US-born players will outnumber Canadians in the 2030s, tipping point around 2032 plus or minus.
And if you look team by team, in some cases, US-born players already outnumber their Canadian counterparts.
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Canada would never stand a chance if athletes like Lebron James or JJ Watt decided to learn how to skate and play hockey instead of basketball/football.
All? No. The NBA consists of multiple nationalities. However, judging this by the nationality of the MVP candidates is silly in my opinion. Canada doesn't even have a stranglehold on it in the NHL. The USA is to basketball as Canada is to hockey. We produce the most NBA talent, and looking at an article about non-US players on opening night rosters this season, there were 125. The NBA has a roster limit of 15 per team, so multiplied by 30 teams in the league, that leaves 325 US players. We're also the dominant force in international basketball, similar to how Canada is the dominant force in international hockey. Slightly more so even, with 17 out of 20 Olympic men's gold medals going to the United States, including the last four in a row, as well as 8 out of 9 where NBA players were allowed to participate. The women's side is similar, with 10 out of 13 gold medals going to the US women.
The gap is, however, closing. The 1992 men blew out everyone en route to gold, but the games are now much closer, and the US women beat France in the gold medal game by a single point in the most recent Olympics.
The NBA is a joke. Teams were purposely not allowing some Canadian players to play for their country.
Everything about the NBA is absolute garbage.
I don't disagree that the NBA is a joke in general. The NHL is also a joke in the context of international hockey for the past decade or so. I don't think that detracts from the point I was trying to make, though, which is that the USA produces the most NBA talent compared to other countries, like how Canada produces the most NHL talent compared to other countries, and the results of international tournaments tend to speak for themselves.
TheBeastCoast
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JJ Watt does know how to skate lol just as you would expect....being the physical freak that he is he ended up playing football over hockey!
jj cale
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That whole organization, it's fans and country got too cocky.
And they got it all shoved down their throat. A lesson that they desperately needed at this particular time.
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Yup. US has 10x the population. If their top athletes chose hockey first, like Canada’s top athletes do, then they’d have elite players like McKinnon, McDavid, Crosby, Makar and more of them too. Right now, those elite level athletes are in other sports.
End on a Hinote
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I think this says more about Canada's decrease than USA's growth.
Even though we won, we need to do something to get young Canadians involved more in the sport again.
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Why was Jesperi Kotkaniemi invited?
This is super off topic but maybe turning youth developmental hockey into a scam targeting upper middle class families with the lure the generational wealth a long NHL career affords has some negative long term side effects on the health of the sport
JJ Watt did play hockey. He liked it better than football. But hockey is stupid expensive and football is cheap, so he played football.
This is super off topic but maybe turning youth developmental hockey into a scam targeting upper middle class families with the lure the generational wealth a long NHL career affords has some negative long term side effects on the health of the sport
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