Brandon Hagel hit on Barkov-1 game suspension

[pb1300]

It WAS NOT well past Barkov.

I would say roughly 10 feet away is “WELL PAST” Barkov. But I guess you know better

 

[NVious]

Violas check cleared

Dirty panthers cant take what they dish out and have special treatment from the league

Ped enhancing cheating team

(Unironically)

 

[Fatass]

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I would say roughly 10 feet away is “WELL PAST” Barkov. But I guess you know better

Really the suspension should have been more. The only intent there was to injure a guy. Barkov isn’t expecting to be hit because the puck is nowhere near. He’s turning to pursue it. This type of hit could happen all over the ice. Guys could target opponents regardless of where the puck is. It’s a very dirty play.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

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That's like half a second after Barkov attempted to play the puck. There's a well established rule that you have a window of opportunity to finish a check after a player gets rid of the puck. The only valid argument I see from Florida fans in this thread is that Barkov didn't actually touch the puck. I find it a grey area because he certainly tried and missed it. But that means 2 mins for interference max because it was an otherwise clean check.

 

[pb1300]

Really the suspension should have been more. The only intent there was to injure a guy. Barkov isn’t expecting to be hit because the puck is nowhere near. He’s turning to pursue it. This type of hit could happen all over the ice. Guys could target opponents regardless of where the puck is. It’s a very dirty play.

Yeah to say Hagel was playing the puck is horseshit. Watch the whole sequence from the red line on, and you can see Hagel’s intention come into play. It was all about the hit, nothing more. What do you expect when you have the king PoS player in Kucherov leading them.

 

[pb1300]

That's like half a second after Barkov attempted to play the puck. There's a well established rule that you have a window of opportunity to finish a check after a player gets rid of the puck. The only valid argument I see from Florida fans in this thread is that Barkov didn't actually touch the puck. I find it a grey area because he certainly tried and missed it. But that means 2 mins for interference max because it was an otherwise clean check.

Sure it is

 

[elmaco]

Yeah to say Hagel was playing the puck is horseshit. Watch the whole sequence from the red line on, and you can see Hagel’s intention come into play. It was all about the hit, nothing more. What do you expect when you have the king PoS player in Kucherov leading them.

You can see Hagel brace for the hit right before it happens, eyes and posture locked on Barkov the whole time.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

That's a 2 minute interference, suspending him for that would be a joke

What if that was Matthews getting hit?

 

[pb1300]

You can see Hagel brace for the hit right before it happens, eyes and posture locked on Barkov the whole time.

It’s sad to even think otherwise and have the nerve to defend that play, saying he was playing the puck. It’s an insult to the person’s intelligence to even think of posting that. And I’m the first to admit if a Panthers player was in the wrong, such as Bennett’s sucker punch last playoffs on Marchand. To say that doesn’t deserve what he received is either rage baiting, or needs to see an optometrist.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

What if that was Matthews getting hit?

Matthews missed like several months a few years ago with a separated shoulder due to a hit from Trouba. I don't remember one Leaf fan complaining about it because it was a clean hit. You know, like Hagel's on Barkov.

 

[HisNoodliness]

They ARE all fine. There is 40 instances of interference every game not called. As we know the league doesn't give a damn about player safety so they chose to single this one out for a reason of their own

It WAS NOT well past Barkov.

How many uncalled interferences are greenlight hits and not the standard 'sort of slide into the guys path accidentally on purpose' defense that's been allowed forever?

I'm mostly with Hughes on this one. The puck was definitely well past Barkov though. I still think it's a very typical "you finish your checks in the playoffs" hit though. There's the classic "whoopsie, I'm just an obstruction defense." This is more similar to the "you just retrieved it and passed it off because you see me coming, but I'm going to finish my check" plays. Those are happening really frequently and I think that's what went through Hagel's mind. "He missed it-well I'll finish my check." Those are less common mostly because NHL players usually manage to get the puck in these situations. It still goes uncalled like 90% of the time. It's always a penalty. We can litigate the whole putting the whistles away things another time.

In this case it got called mostly because Barkov is turning, and thus doesn't brace for the hit. In fact he sort of stands up straight and leans forward, making him get absolutely annihilated by what should have been a pretty clean check (interference aside). Because of how brutal the hit ends up being, I think 5 and a game was fine. I'd be okay with a 2 min minor "because it's the playoffs" or 5 and a game "because we're cleaning the game up." The refs have to make a call on the spot, it was clearly interference and Barkov was possibly injured. Get Hagel out of there so things don't escalate. Not a bad call.

I think a suspension is total garage. The league looked at this, had all the time in the world to review it and went with a suspension? DoPS are a total joke. It's a clear "how dare you do that to a star player" suspension. Hagel does that to some third liner and he ends up celebrated on a "biggest hits of the playoffs" compilation on NHL.com

 

[Fatass]

Matthews missed like several months a few years ago with a separated shoulder due to a hit from Trouba. I don't remember one Leaf fan complaining about it because it was a clean hit. You know, like Hagel's on Barkov.

This hit wasn’t clean. It was well away from the puck. If it was clean there wouldn’t have been a major and suspension. I’m not familiar with the Trouba hit on Matthews. If it was well away from the puck, like this one, then it was also dirty.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Matthews missed like several months a few years ago with a separated shoulder due to a hit from Trouba. I don't remember one Leaf fan complaining about it because it was a clean hit. You know, like Hagel's on Barkov.

I mean if we're going to just make shit up. Sure. Free for all. Do what you want. No skill in the game, just goon it up. Got to do somethin to try get Toronto a win. Because they sure can't do it under these conditions.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

It’s sad to even think otherwise and have the nerve to defend that play, saying he was playing the puck. It’s an insult to the person’s intelligence to even think of posting that. And I’m the first to admit if a Panthers player was in the wrong, such as Bennett’s sucker punch last playoffs on Marchand. To say that doesn’t deserve what he received is either rage baiting, or needs to see an optometrist.

Feel free to point out where you admitted Bennett was in the wrong for tackling and driving Knies' head into the ice putting him out of the playoffs 2 years ago. Incidentally, Knies was nowhere near the puck on that play either and was just finishing a check after Bennett touched the puck. I'll wait.

Edit: FYI, this didn't even draw a penalty let alone a suspension.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Oh hey look. Barkov embellishing an at best somewhat dirty hit as if he were hit with a train to draw a penalty, the Panthers releasing vague statements about his availability for the rest of the series before a disciplinary hearing, and then him magically recovering hours before the game. Where have I seen this before? The guy sells contact better than Dolph Ziggler in the WWE lol.

 

[TotalHomer]

Feel free to point out where you admitted Bennett was in the wrong for tackling and driving Knies' head into the ice putting him out of the playoffs 2 years ago. Incidentally, Knies was nowhere near the puck on that play either and was just finishing a check after Bennett touched the puck. I'll wait.

Edit: FYI, this didn't even draw a penalty let alone a suspension.

That's a good hit and a veteran play by Bennett.

 

[pb1300]

Feel free to point out where you admitted Bennett was in the wrong for tackling and driving Knies' head into the ice putting him out of the playoffs 2 years ago. Incidentally, Knies was nowhere near the puck on that play either and was just finishing a check after Bennett touched the puck. I'll wait.

Edit: FYI, this didn't even draw a penalty let alone a suspension.

Go cry elsewhere. I don’t need to prove shit to you or anyone else look it up yourself.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

That's a good hit and a veteran play by Bennett.

As was Hagel's on Barkov.

 

[TotalHomer]

As was Hagel's on Barkov.

Yes, except it was illegal. The Bennett hit was obviously legal since he didn't get penalized.

 

[Mikeaveli]

Yeah I watched the player safety video, they literally gave him a game for hitting too hard lol. Soft league

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Yes, except it was illegal. The Bennett hit was obviously legal since he didn't get penalized.

LOL, he punched him the face with his stick and tackled him to the ice nowhere near the puck and drove his head into the ice giving him a concussion. "Obviously legal".

The only obvious thing is it's pointless to try to discuss this with you guys. Enjoy the game.

 

[TotalHomer]

LOL, he punched him the face with his stick and tackled him to the ice nowhere near the puck and drove his head into the ice giving him a concussion. "Obviously legal".

The only obvious thing is it's pointless to try to discuss this with you guys. Enjoy the game.

Rookie trying to take a run at veteran and then leaving himself completely vulnerable when things went wrong. Knies had to learn the hard way but I'm sure he did and won't make the same mistake again.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Yes, except it was illegal. The Bennett hit was obviously legal since he didn't get penalized.

is missed high stick a legal play?

Im just trying to find where you draw the line on crazy takes

 

[Bust]

is missed high stick a legal play?

Im just trying to find where you draw the line on crazy takes

It's hard to admit when on the receiving end of preferred treatment, clearly.

 

[StrangeVision]

Feel free to point out where you admitted Bennett was in the wrong for tackling and driving Knies' head into the ice putting him out of the playoffs 2 years ago. Incidentally, Knies was nowhere near the puck on that play either and was just finishing a check after Bennett touched the puck. I'll wait.

Edit: FYI, this didn't even draw a penalty let alone a suspension.

Damn, that video didn't even include Bennett's descent from the rafters with his intro music to take down Knies.