Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk Part X

[Relapsing]

I wonder if Mendes will publish a Monday Musings article today...

 

[PlayOn]

If Brady is moved this summer I am not opposed to getting younger. We’ve seen teams like Pittsburgh make the playoffs while trying to retool quickly - I don’t think Ottawa’s would be that extreme but for Brady I’m taking the best deal available even if it’s more futures-based.

Then you can also explore other trades to improve at the same time. The most important thing imo is to get at least one significant piece that can “replace” him. If that has to come via draft pick, oh well.

 

[bicboi64]

There's a balance you have to strike between better off long term and better off now, because the last thing we want is for Sanderson and Stutzle to feel like we're wasting their best shot at the cup for some other player's future. Don't want our guys pulling a Larkin....

Micklebot, my stance on that topic is any player that wants out because they are so distraught over losing Tkachuk can gtfo.

Hossa, Spezza, EK, Stone were each at one point a favourite player of mine and I enjoy fandom without thinking any one player is the sole future. Stu and Sandy aren't McDavid or Makar and I'm down for anyone to be moved as long as it makes us better (assuming I have faith in the GM which for now I do lol)

 

[Relapsing]

Micklebot, my stance on that topic is any player that wants out because they are so distraught over losing Tkachuk can gtfo.

Hossa, Spezza, EK, Stone were each at one point a favourite player of mine and I enjoy fandom without thinking any one player is the sole future. Stu and Sandy aren't McDavid or Makar and I'm down for anyone to be moved as long as it makes us better (assuming I have faith in the GM which for now I do lol)

Checking in with my past self:

Anyways, lots of chatter about trying to read Brady's mind - who gives a f***. That guy can barely count. Trying to read his mind may make you insane for having made the attempt. He can stay, or he can go - whatever makes the team better next year, or into the future.

My (hopefully eventual) elation when the Sens win a cup will not be dependent on whether any individual player's name gets engraved on it, least of all Brady Tkachuks. It's not about him. It's never been about him.

Yep, I still firmly believe in the above

 

[Micklebot]

Micklebot, my stance on that topic is any player that wants out because they are so distraught over losing Tkachuk can gtfo.

Hossa, Spezza, EK, Stone were each at one point a favourite player of mine and I enjoy fandom without thinking any one player is the sole future. Stu and Sandy aren't McDavid or Makar and I'm down for anyone to be moved as long as it makes us better (assuming I have faith in the GM which for now I do lol)

Well your last sentence is literally the point I was making; you need them to beleive that the move improves their chances of winning, because if they see it as taking away their chances then they may want to cut bait.

A clear cut example would be Giroux, if we trade Brady this offseason for a bunch of futures, his motivation to extend one more year might get impacted since he sees a top player on the team moving out with no replacement (unless of course we then make other trades to improve the team)

So, assuming we trade Brady, we need to balance the reality that Stutzle has 5 years left on his deal, and will want to maximize his chances of winning during that time.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I did just edit my post to note that the question can be extended to say the Rangers at 5th who really like to swing for the fences.

I suppose it really a question of a hick pick vs. ready to go first line type players.

It's just that it's actually a chance for a (presumably) desired location that happens to have high picks.

5 OV would be an entirely different story than 9

 

[commentsense]

Well your last sentence is literally the point I was making; you need them to beleive that the move improves their chances of winning, because if they see it as taking away their chances then they may want to cut bait.

A clear cut example would be Giroux, if we trade Brady this offseason for a bunch of futures, his motivation to extend one more year might get impacted since he sees a top player on the team moving out with no replacement (unless of course we then make other trades to improve the team)

So, assuming we trade Brady, we need to balance the reality that Stutzle has 5 years left on his deal, and will want to maximize his chances of winning during that time.

I hope players heard Jordan Staal's comments last night, about some players being guys who "just jump ship".

Because he stuck it out and is a Cup champion. Meanwhile Guentzel and Rantanen have been golfing for weeks.

 

[Micklebot]

I hope players heard Jordan Staal's comments last night, about some players being guys who "just jump ship".

Because he stuck it out and is a Cup champion. Meanwhile Guentzel and Rantanen have been golfing for weeks.

Sure I guess. He;s been in Carolina for a loooooong time. Longer than any current sen, heck, longer than most sens have been in the league. It's natural for there to be a bit of animosity from him towards guys that didn't stick it out and "gave up" on their group. I doubt that's directed towards guys like Guentzle or Rantanan who'd been traded to a location he never really wanted to go to, but perhaps a guy like Pesce who'd been there, and grown with the group only to leave?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Sure I guess. He;s been in Carolina for a loooooong time. Longer than any current sen, heck, longer than most sens have been in the league. It's natural for there to be a bit of animosity from him towards guys that didn't stick it out and "gave up" on their group. I doubt that's directed towards guys like Guentzle or Rantanan who'd been traded to a location he never really wanted to go to, but perhaps a guy like Pesce who'd been there, and grown with the group only to leave?

I don't think his comment was meant to be animus, but rather reflected his own pride in not taking the easy route, sticking it out, and creating a winning culture rather than chasing one.

 

[bicboi64]

I hope players heard Jordan Staal's comments last night, about some players being guys who "just jump ship".

Because he stuck it out and is a Cup champion. Meanwhile Guentzel and Rantanen have been golfing for weeks.

Guentzel and Rantanen already had rings but I get where Staal comes from. Felt funny to hear him say that since Leaders are enjoying their Marner shitting because of that line

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't think his comment was meant to be animus, but rather reflected his own pride in not taking the easy route, sticking it out, and creating a winning culture rather than chasing one.

It is certainly one I admire much more.

 

[Micklebot]

I don't think his comment was meant to be animus, but rather reflected his own pride in not taking the easy route, sticking it out, and creating a winning culture rather than chasing one.

Perhaps, I can't help but think he was a little hurt when some long time Canes opted to leave though.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Perhaps, I can't help but think he was a little hurt when some long time Canes opted to leave though.

Oh, I'm sure it hurt when they left, and I'm sure there are guys he wishes he could have won with that departed before they reached the promised land. I'm sure those guys have been in his thoughts. But I don't think there's any animosity.

 

[Masked]

I hope players heard Jordan Staal's comments last night, about some players being guys who "just jump ship".

Because he stuck it out and is a Cup champion. Meanwhile Guentzel and Rantanen have been golfing for weeks.

Likely more about Necas.

 

[commentsense]

Likely more about Necas.

Necas would've stayed in Carolina if they paid him. They didn't want to, because despite his talent, he didn't fully buy into the Brind'Amour way.

I don't think he jumped ship as much as they booted him off it.