Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[Micklebot]

Maybe I'm just better at forecasting :p.

Sure, broken clock is right twice a day (unless it's digital...)

Also, the numbers were bad when we were looking at them. The fact they got worse just makes my point more...but it was always valid. He was on pace for the worst amount of BAD Starts that you showed and had like an .890 sv% at the time. So when I was saying he was bad, you should have agreed, but you didn't.

they got better after we looked at them, then they got worse. We're still talking about a 13 game sample, not particularly compelling,

I wonder why you aren't still preaching patience instead of blaming everything on the goaltending. It's only been a couple weeks. We can't be that fickle lol we need to remain consistent.

I'm not saying we should dump Ullmark, I think he will bounce back eventually, but when talking about why we've lost the games we lost, I can point to the reason while still preaching patience. He hasn't played well, particularly during the skid. I expect he will eventually bounce back given the 300 or whatever it is career games of history we have to base expectations on, but I can't argue that since the Toronto game he's been brutal. Nothing inconsistent about my position.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Also Brady put the higher standards on himself as well.

If he wasn't ready he shouldn't have pushed for the big contract and the captaincy as hard as he did.

What's wrong with holding him to the standard of those things?

What's wrong with accountability?

 

[Answer]

Also Brady put the higher standards on himself as well.

If he wasn't ready he shouldn't have pushed for the big contract and the captaincy as hard as he did.

What's wrong with holding him to the standard of those things?

What's wrong with accountability?

Dude, don't use words that they probably don't even know the meaning of

 

[jbeck5]

Yes, and I'm encouraging you not to worry about it. Move on buddy! Thank you drive through.

Any time! I look forward to seeing jokes and senses of humours from you soonsssss.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Maybe I'm just better at forecasting :p.

Also, the numbers were bad when we were looking at them. The fact they got worse just makes my point more...but it was always valid. He was on pace for the worst amount of BAD Starts that you showed and had like an .890 sv% at the time. So when I was saying he was bad, you should have agreed, but you didn't.

I wonder why you aren't still preaching patience instead of blaming everything on the goaltending. It's only been a couple weeks. We can't be that fickle lol we need to remain consistent.

I get the impression that some people think they are Nostradamus, or a clairvoyant or something even when the predictions are more the low hanging fruit kind of thing. Then there is a need to keep repeating the same monolithic theme over and over.

Anyhow, I hope we get past the goalie & bad goals thing. Even bad goalies let in some stinkers. A team is not of it if they are down a goal or 2. But, the good teams come back and score goals after a softie and provide goal support …. and ….. WIN. I think Green was talking about that in a recent presser. He mentioned situational awareness and how a team responds to bad ref calls or bad goals.

Anyhow, I think its more a fan thing to keep leaning on those crutches. I would expect and/or hope our coach and players aren’t thinking like that.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Also Brady put the higher standards on himself as well.

If he wasn't ready he shouldn't have pushed for the big contract and the captaincy as hard as he did.

What's wrong with holding him to the standard of those things?

What's wrong with accountability?

lol
The big contact he is easily outperforming? That contract?

 

[Micklebot]

I get the impression that some people think they are Nostradamus, or a clairvoyant or something even when the predictions are more the low hanging fruit kind of thing. Then there is a need to keep repeating the same monolithic theme over and over.

Anyhow, I hope we get past the goalie & bad goals thing. Even bad goalies let in some stinkers. A team is not of it if they are down a goal or 2. But, the good teams come back and score goals after a softie and provide goal support …. and ….. WIN. I think Green was talking about that in a recent presser. He mentioned situational awareness and how a team responds to bad ref calls or bad goals.

Anyhow, I think its more a fan thing to keep leaning on those crutches. I would expect and/or hope our coach and players aren’t thinking like that.

Sure, good teams respond to bad breaks, and sometimes they can beat the odds. The problem we are having is we're having to beat the odds far too often and far too early in games.

Even if the goaltending was clicking, we wouldn't be rolling off wins like the Jets or 2022-23 Bruins, so there are still coachable moments for the skaters too, Green isn't going to say everything is perfect when it isn't and he's not going to throw the goalie under the bus either, so pointing to other areas we can improve isn't really evidence that goaltending has been the principle area of concern.

We are the 15th highest scoring team in the league. We were getting the goal support early in the season, that support has slipped a bit since, but not as far as you'd think, in the last 12 games played (since the 8-1 win over stl) we're 17th in goals per game (we wer 11th in the first 9 games thanks to two big outburst, the aforementioned StL game and the LAK game, both 8 goal games)

Goal support is an area we can improve on, but it's not been as bad as some would have you believe.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

lol
The big contact he is easily outperforming? That contract?

Is he?

Idk seems like any line he is on has a heck of a time trying to break even despite his stat line.

Not all points are created equal. Brady and Sébastien Aho have been pacing for similar totals last 3 years but they couldn't be more different in how they get them.

Aho's style gets wins, Bradys style is to make his stat line look good. Big difference.

 

[jbeck5]

I get the impression that some people think they are Nostradamus, or a clairvoyant or something even when the predictions are more the low hanging fruit kind of thing. Then there is a need to keep repeating the same monolithic theme over and over.

Anyhow, I hope we get past the goalie & bad goals thing. Even bad goalies let in some stinkers. A team is not of it if they are down a goal or 2. But, the good teams come back and score goals after a softie and provide goal support …. and ….. WIN. I think Green was talking about that in a recent presser. He mentioned situational awareness and how a team responds to bad ref calls or bad goals.

Anyhow, I think its more a fan thing to keep leaning on those crutches. I would expect and/or hope our coach and players aren’t thinking like that.

Do you mean the people that predicted that a bad team would be bad think they're Nostradamus or the people that predict good results from a bad team think they're Nostradamus?

I would agree that people that are predicting something good from something bad would think they might be clairvoyant.

But I agree that people who predict a bad team will be bad is low hanging fruit, but it's not exactly like anyone is bragging. They're just saying "see, I told you not to get your hopes up". I'm trying to help others not have a break down when we don't make the playoffs by showing people it's likely we don't make the playoffs...so it's not a total shock or disappointment. It's about having low expectations so that they're easily met or surpassed.