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His teams do at times, it's not Tennis.
Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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ACC1224
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Yep, except for the years they don't.
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First of all, I'd take him on my team for sure... and, this whole thing is weird. Like he's been past the second round once in the last decade before this year. We're giving him credit for getting this team there even though this team went to the Finals the last two years and beat Brad Marchand's team to get there both of those years. He's never been the guy in any year that they've gone to the Finals either, it was a great Bruins team and Bergeron and Chara were always the guys when they were getting to the Finals (which they won only once when he was a rookie and not at all the guy).
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Yep, I wasn't putting him down in anyway but we see far too much individual focus both positively and negatively for a Team sport.
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Sad asset management.
ouch.
Shanaplan's hiring of newbie GM and newbie coach Keefe was as bad as his OK'ing Tavares as a UFA idiocy without locking up the core first.
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Um, you know people are discussing signing players, right?
Also, in the last few seasons, he's acquired the best names, not the best players.
Laughton is a perfect example of that.
Did you miss this trade deadline?
You bumped your old post to complain about Dubas trading 1sts?
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If he can’t sign any top end players then maybe he should look at using some cap space to take on a salary for a 1st round draft pick, like Carolina did with Marleau, if there are any teams willing to do it.
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Brad Marchand's teams have made the finals as many times as Brad Marchand's teams have lost in the first round. 4 times each.
Stephen
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Since the Matthews era started, Marchand has made the finals 2x, lost in the second round 4x and the first round 3x. I'd take that over our track record.
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You responded to that discussion by saying the team was getting older as if it was a statement of fact, when the fact is that nobody has been signed. In other words, you criticized him for something that hasn't happened.
I don't care if the team gets older, my only concern is that the team gets better.
If they sign Brad Marchand their LW will have gotten better.
It's that simple
Do people age? Do the Leafs not?
The core and D core, all signed next season, are aging.
Our D is likely one of the oldest in the league.
Treliving seems to not mind signing aging players either, so it wouldn't shock me if you see some players approaching 40 signed, like Pacioretty who is being rumored to come back.
And RW would have gotten a lot worse.
C and D are likely to drop off a little too due to the main players getting a year older.
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All players get older, but the team could get younger.
I suspect it won't.
Getting younger would involve promoting prospects ...
They traded two prospects would could likely contribute in the bottom 6 and were more NHL ready than Cowan, and outside of him, I can't see any prospect getting a shot.
They could trade everyone for prospects and run a team of 18 year olds, but I think the likely outcome is an older team, and based on who is signed, everyone is older in important positions (mainly D).
RW Will likely start the season weaker than last year.
But if your LW is better
Your center position is at least the same.
Your defense is better because now you have a full season of Carlo who you didn't have to start last year.
and your goaltending tandem is solid, at least in the regular season, I don't trust Woll after his gutless game 3 performance but in the regular season it should be solid.
If those things are all true, and all signs are pointing to them being true.
Then you can handle your RW getting a little weaker.
Losing Marner does not take this team from a division winner to not making the playoffs, it just doesn't
Man anybody watching this final should be all for giving Marchand WHATEVER HE WANTS.
You want to talk about changing the DNA that's how you do it.
I know he's 37, I don't care there are exceptions to every rule.
Marchand is an exception
You want to talk about changing the DNA that's how you do it.
I know he's 37, I don't care there are exceptions to every rule.
Marchand is an exception
The reports are that all he cares about is money on his next contract since it is his retirement contract, so sure, sign him for whatever he wants.
I think he will perform exactly the same every year moving forward.
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I’m not worried about the “age rule”
I’m worried about the salary rule. He’s gonna want a retirement contract like @notbias said.
If the goal of letting Marner walk is to get deeper, signing Marchand for 9+ is not the way to go.
He won’t have a lundell+luostorainen to play with
He won’t have the benefit of playing easier matchups with guys who compliment his style
He wont be making 5m, instead think closer to double
I also kinda don’t want the guy who sends us home every year on my team. This dude has ended our season multiple times and was a huge reason we kick started our “retool”, idk how I feel about him on my team. It’s not a discredit to the player, he’s been great but it would be too weird/wrong for him to be a leaf after all of this.
Look if you want to change the DNA, guys like Marchand are how you do that.
No he wouldn't have Lundell and Lousterenin to play with.
He'd have Matthews and Domi
Or maybe Matthews and Knies
Or maybe Nylander and Tavares
Or maybe Matthews and Nylander
I don't know what the combination would be but It's not like his line mates would fall off a cliff.
I would not hesitate to give Marchand 4 years 32 million and whatever clause he needs.
Marchand is a different beast
We would still get deeper because that path gives us 4-6M extra to inject into the bottom six.
He would likely have Willy to play with who is far superior.
I would rethink the idea of not wanting the guy who sends teams home every year. We're kinda the dog in the corner right now.
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maybe, but I can't shake the feeling, especially since its always our team.
I went from caring too much and crying over losses to the bruins to now not caring as much. He's been a huge factor as to why my fandom has "died". idk if i can support marchand, even as a leaf
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Marchand fits a role on a team with strong leadership and top end talent. The Leafs are not that team and expecting him to come in and be the guy he was Bergeron and Chara would be extremely risky.
