Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I'm starting to think Krider might end here.

There appears to be to much smoke for there to be no fire.

Panarin is probably available too.

Leafs would be able to afford him if they don't bring back Marner. I think Toronto and NYR would be make good trading partners. Both have big pieces they could be looking to move.

Maybe something centred around Rielly for Panarin.

 

[Tak7]

They probably don't have the assets to pull it off, but I'd be all over Marco Rossi and/or JJ Peterka - seeing what it takes to get those guys out of their respective situations, and signed as RFAs, would be pretty significant moves.

Frankly, the type of moves I don't think Treliving is capable of pulling off

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

They probably don't have the assets to pull it off, but I'd be all over Marco Rossi and/or JJ Peterka - seeing what it takes to get those guys out of their respective situations, and signed as RFAs, would be pretty significant moves.

Frankly, the type of moves I don't think Treliving is capable of pulling off

Both those conversations likely include Cowan, and I say likely because it legitimately sounds like Minnesota doesn't even want Rossi which if a true is a choice.

And I would include Cowan for both especially Rossi because he's a center

 

[Tak7]

Both those conversations likely include Cowan, and I say likely because it legitimately sounds like Minnesota doesn't even want Rossi which if a true is a choice.

And I would include Cowan for both especially Rossi because he's a center

It would depend entirely on what sort deal you'd be able to sign Rossi to - I'd be super hesitant to part ways with Cowan unless I knew I was getting Rossi for 8 years.

 

[nuck]

Both those conversations likely include Cowan, and I say likely because it legitimately sounds like Minnesota doesn't even want Rossi which if a true is a choice.

And I would include Cowan for both especially Rossi because he's a center

I don't think he is obtainable. The Leafs have been cycling through assets since the Plekanec deal trying to build playoff success around the big 3 and don't really have much tradeable value because of that. You have to pay to play but the annual playoff failures have meant that massive drain on system depth bought them nothing

With their limited assets they are small game hunters except in free agency. Cowan by himself doesn't get you close to a young 60pt centre. Carlo + might get useful value from some clubs, not necessarily the Wild, which is something they could do do if they were going to be signing Ekblad

 

[Trapper]

Shut up and buy a jersey for Pete’s sake……..

You mean for Keith’s sake.
He needs the money to afford multi coloured glasses.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Summer of Brad is coming based on that press conference

 

[rumman]

Summer of Brad is coming based on that press conference

Lets hope he does a good job, imho for every good move he makes he makes a bad move, 50/50 batting average won’t fix this team, he needs to hit a few out of the park, here’s hoping he gets it done……….

 

[Maple Leaf]

Summer of Brad is coming based on that press conference

What has Brad won anyway

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Lets hope he does a good job, imho for every good move he makes he makes a bad move, 50/50 batting average won’t fix this team, he needs to hit a few out of the park, here’s hoping he gets it done……….

50/50? His bad moves are Hakanpaa, Klingberg and Reaves.

2 of those are 1 year deals so they don't even count because one of them is done, the other ends in about a month.

The other guy they can bury almost the entire contract, in fact it might even be the entire contract now that next years cap is 95 million.

Brad's worst moves have had 0 negative impact on this team.

 

[Nineteen67]

50/50? His bad moves are Hakanpaa, Klingberg and Reaves.

2 of those are 1 year deals so they don't even count because one of them is done, the other ends in about a month.

The other guy they can bury almost the entire contract, in fact it might even be the entire contract now that next years cap is 95 million.

Brad's worst moves have had 0 negative impact on this team.

Domi’s contract would be on the bad side of the ledger as is Nylander’s NMC. We’ll see what he does with Knies, but I don’t feel good about it.

 

[Nineteen67]

What has Brad won anyway

Certainly not a press conference….uummmm…

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Domi’s contract would be on the bad side of the ledger as is Nylander’s NMC. We’ll see what he does with Knies, but I don’t feel good about it.

If we are going by Regular season you could make the argument.

But Domi elevates his level of playoffs we saw it.

So to me he's worth it.

 

[Nineteen67]

If we are going by Regular season you could make the argument.

But Domi elevates his level of playoffs we saw it.

So to me he's worth it.

He’s been their best player two yrs in a row. And that is a problem.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He’s been their best player two yrs in a row. And that is a problem.

It is a problem that's why the "DNA" is changing.

It's also what keeps him off the list of bad moves.

I mean you JUST called him him their best playoff player which I don't know is quite true but pretty close.

But there is a reason you did that.

It's because you know what I said is 1000% true.

Max Domi elevates his game in the playoffs.

You keep Max Domi.

And you use him the right way, which is on the wing.

 

[rumman]

Domi’s contract would be on the bad side of the ledger as is Nylander’s NMC. We’ll see what he does with Knies, but I don’t feel good about it.

Much of what he’s done needs to play out, Tanev and OEL look like home runs after one season, but that could change as their terms play out. Laughton was a big overpay, so was Styles, and Knies is next up to bat……..

 

[Nineteen67]

It is a problem that's why the "DNA" is changing.

It's also what keeps him off the list of bad moves.

I mean you JUST called him him their best playoff player which I don't know is quite true but pretty close.

But there is a reason you did that.

It's because you know what I said is 1000% true.

Max Domi elevates his game in the playoffs.

You keep Max Domi.

And you use him the right way, which is on the wing.

Tre won’t be around when the DNA changes.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Tre won’t be around when the DNA changes.

The DNA has already changed Marner is out the door

 

[Nineteen67]

Much of what he’s done needs to play out, Tanev and OEL look like home runs after one season, but that could change as their terms play out. Laughton was a big overpay, so was Styles, and Knies is next up to bat……..

I’d like to see him move Tanev and OEL while they still have value. But they’ll keep them around and surround them with other aging guys and the new GM will be left with a mess.

 

[Nineteen67]

The DNA has already changed Marner is out the door

But there’s still a lot left.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

But there’s still a lot left.

Sure but they aren't going to blow the whole f***ing team up, I know people think they want that, first of all no they don't.

Secondly even if they do want that the team just won the Atlantic It's not going to happen.

When was the last time you saw a division winner blow it up 2 months later?

It doesn't happen, I know you'll probably say Boston but they didn't.

They signed Lindholm and Zadorov that's not blowing it up, they added.

The rebuild in Toronto is 5 years away.

 

[Nineteen67]

Sure but they aren't going to blow the whole f***ing team up, I know people think they want that, first of all no they don't.

Secondly even if they do want that the team just won the Atlantic It's not going to happen.

When was the last time you saw a division winner blow it up 2 months later?

It doesn't happen, I know you'll probably say Boston but they didn't.

They signed Lindholm and Zadorov that's not blowing it up, they added.

The rebuild in Toronto is 5 years away.

The complete rebuild is three yrs away, unless they get really lucky.

Maybe the Leafs will be like Boston and move the few assets they have left at the TDL?

 

[rumman]

I’d like to see him move Tanev and OEL while they still have value. But they’ll keep them around and surround them with other aging guys and the new GM will be left with a mess.

It’s a possibility, if your teams fill with aging vets throwing away high draft picks is a pretty stupid move imo…….

 

[SImpelton]

The complete rebuild is three yrs away, unless they get really lucky.

Maybe the Leafs will be like Boston and move the few assets they have left at the TDL?

The Leafs have to get younger. This core is struggling and probably won't take you any further than it already has. That's not definite, but it's the way to lay the odds.

In their situation you consider moving core guys in order to restock the farm and set up for future runs. These can be very unpopular moves for the fanbase and owners, but we have literally seen what only doing the popular thing does for the Leafs franchise.

If Treliving manages to do the unpopular hard thing and break up the boy's club and bring in some younger, hungrier guys that no one's heard of yet I'll be favorably impressed, even if it doesn't work out immediately.

Fundamentally that's what Boston did with the Joe Thornton trade, and that combined with drafting guys like Bergeron, MacAvoy, Marchand and Pastrnak (in other words, not wasting picks and drafting well) was what gave them that long run at contending for Cups.

It took a few years, but building from the waiver wire with unknown guys, keeping the guys that work, dealing the guys who didn't fit the vision while they have redeeming value (examples: Tyler Seguin and Blake Wheeler), and developing a consistent culture based on defensive responsibility and hard nosed hard hitting hockey with guys like Chara, Boychuk, McAvoy Thornton, Campbell, Ference, etc, was what gave them the chance to make these runs in the first place.

 

[notbias]

If we are going by Regular season you could make the argument.

But Domi elevates his level of playoffs we saw it.

So to me he's worth it.

He does sometimes... he didn't a year ago.

He was pretty bad most of these playoffs too, he definitely had some moments and games though, I think he was worth his contract, but he certainly didn't exceed it.