Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Evilhomer]

Does it seem like Shanahan expects to survive another 1st round loss in the playoffs? I say thats not at all likely and he will be very incentivized to improve the club at the cost of some futures rather than save things for his replacement. The window is shrinking, JT, OEL and Tanev aren't kids and there is at least a mathematical chance they don't re-sign Marner.

Kyle opened the wallet and added O'Reilly and McCabe a couple of years ago. Spent some futures but IMO it moved the needle and if Sammy wasn't in the net, who knows? The last 3 years Campbell and Samsonov have given them .896, .897, and .898 in the playoffs. It looks like that might not be a problem this season. No Sammy and no Keefe now If they can get players with the impact potential of ROR and McCabe again they need to do it and I think Tre gets that.

I think Treliving is going to have a very good trade deadline. I have no doubt he knows that this season is potentially the team's best chance to win a Cup.

 

[ULF_55]

I think Treliving is going to have a very good trade deadline. I have no doubt he knows that this season is potentially the team's best chance to win a Cup.

This team is now.

There is no future, to not go all in says wait another 8 years for sometime good to happen.

Mathews might not even be here in 4 years .... I could see him go home.

 

[thewave]

This team is now.

There is no future, to not go all in says wait another 8 years for sometime good to happen.

Mathews might not even be here in 4 years .... I could see him go home.

OEL Tanev Rielly

Those are now, it's now or never baby signings. Those 3 years from now will consume a good portion of cap and roster spot but be old and likely slow. The teams not fast as is.

Stolarz is hot, 1 more year.

Knies needs paid etc.

It really is now or never.

 

[Evilhomer]

This team is now.

There is no future, to not go all in says wait another 8 years for sometime good to happen.

Mathews might not even be here in 4 years .... I could see him go home.

Agreed. The future of this team is irrelevant. It's all about the next 3 or 4 years.

 

[The Shrike]

2023-24: 70 points in 55 games.
2024-25: 68 points in 55 games.

Results are pretty even so far, but as we all know the playoffs are how this team will be judged.

 

[Gallagbi]

I think Treliving is going to have a very good trade deadline. I have no doubt he knows that this season is potentially the team's best chance to win a Cup.

What makes you say that?

 

[Dekes For Days]

2023-24: 70 points in 55 games.
2024-25: 68 points in 55 games.

2020-21: 77 points in 55 games
2021-22: 74 points in 55 games
2022-23: 74 points in 55 games
2023-24: 70 points in 55 games
2024-25: 68 points in 55 games

Not really the direction we want to be going.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This team is now.

There is no future, to not go all in says wait another 8 years for sometime good to happen.

Mathews might not even be here in 4 years .... I could see him go home.

Matthews literally can't go home because thankfully Arizona no longer has a team.

 

[Evilhomer]

What makes you say that?

The downgrade in quality in the rest of the conference. I think it will be similar to the Raptors 2019 season (right down to winning the championship with a new coach). Sometimes you win because everyone else has gotten just a bit worse.

 

[Racer88]

2020-21: 77 points in 55 games
2021-22: 74 points in 55 games
2022-23: 74 points in 55 games
2023-24: 70 points in 55 games
2024-25: 68 points in 55 games

Not really the direction we want to be going.

However the playoff results have been dismal in all those seasons so I would argue that is not the direction we want to be going.
Let’s face it, Dubas had 5 years with these amazing players to have any type of playoff success and he failed miserably.
No amount is spin can change that fact because the Dubas cord excuse is weak as other team seem to navigate it with much more success then Dubas

 

[arso40]

Need to start identifying players to make these lines gel if we didn’t have a bobby mcmann and a nylander these lines would look even more dysfunctional

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

2023-24: 70 points in 55 games.
2024-25: 68 points in 55 games.

Results are pretty even so far, but as we mvp season and thisyear he is asting.all know the playoffs are how this team will be judged.

A bit different in that AM was having an MVP year. in 23-24 and right now he is not a top 50 scorer. The team feels it. They need his game back.

 

[Racer88]

A bit different in that AM was having an MVP year. in 23-24 and right now he is not a top 50 scorer. The team feels it. They need his game back.

Yup if they are paying him like a star he needs to be one

 

[Gallagbi]

The downgrade in quality in the rest of the conference. I think it will be similar to the Raptors 2019 season (right down to winning the championship with a new coach). Sometimes you win because everyone else has gotten just a bit worse.

We're 9th in the league right now and 4th in the conference. Seems to be about normal for the past ~5 years, arguably a touch lower, no?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What makes you say that?

Washington aside the east as a whole is weaker then It's been since about 2015 if not longer, and that includes Florida they look like they might be running out of gas a little bit which isn't totally surprising because They've been to back to back finals.

The Leafs are where they are in the standings while being gutted by injury the entire season.

I would suggest to you that speaks to the quality of the team Treliving has built and that now is the time to strike.

 

[Dekes For Days]

However the playoff results have been dismal in all those seasons so I would argue that is not the direction we want to be going.

They weren't "dismal", and playoff outcomes don't really have a direction. You either win the cup or you don't. Having a worse team doesn't help you win.