Prospect Info: Brad Lambert, 30th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

[Buffdog]

He isn’t a millennial.

He isn’t a blue chip prospect. He is currently a project.

Handing him anything is not the way to set the bar. He had a couple decent preseason games after being benched against 20 year olds. Now is not the time to take the foot off the gas. There are a lot better players who have worked harder for longer.

He played a couple decent games against AHLers and NHL players going for a skate. Calm down. I get he is a shiny new toy but this is a marathon not a sprint.

So who showed better in the pre season that Lambert who has worked harder and longer?

I understand the hesitancy to anoint anyone anything after two pre season games. BUT... let's agree that camp means different things for different guys. For vets, it's a chance to get back in the swing of things and knock the rust off. For depth players, it's a chance to battle for spots. For the young guys, it's a chance to make an impression.

If nothing else, Lambert made an impression. Yes he's young and green and unproven, but has he not earned at least a look for a few games so far? Why demote him "just because"?

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Millennials are in their 40s dude

Sorry, didn't drink my morning coffee

Sounds like something a millenial would say...

 

[surixon]

So who showed better in the pre season that Lambert who has worked harder and longer?

I understand the hesitancy to anoint anyone anything after two pre season games. BUT... let's agree that camp means different things for different guys. For vets, it's a chance to get back in the swing of things and knock the rust off. For depth players, it's a chance to battle for spots. For the young guys, it's a chance to make an impression.

If nothing else, Lambert made an impression. Yes he's young and green and unproven, but has he not earned at least a look for a few games so far? Why demote him "just because"?

Who really cares that much about preseason. Guys like Barron and Gus showed extremely well last year in pro hockey when the games meant something. I put more stock in that then a couple good preseason games.

We don't need to rush every new prospect right into the lineup. Players who have put in the development time like Barron and Gus have earned a look based on their pro play. They are also better suited for the roles open.[/QUOTE]

 

[TS Quint]

So who showed better in the pre season that Lambert who has worked harder and longer?

I understand the hesitancy to anoint anyone anything after two pre season games. BUT... let's agree that camp means different things for different guys. For vets, it's a chance to get back in the swing of things and knock the rust off. For depth players, it's a chance to battle for spots. For the young guys, it's a chance to make an impression.

If nothing else, Lambert made an impression. Yes he's young and green and unproven, but has he not earned at least a look for a few games so far? Why demote him "just because"?

I don’t care about a couple preseason games it means so little when it comes down to it. The sample size is tiny and the competition is relatively low. He isn’t getting demoted “just because”. In fact you seem to want to keep him “ just because”.

So many people get so excited over nothing. Great, a good AHL player played good against AHL players. We saw the excitement on these boards over Eyssimont and Stenlund and they get sent down. I doubt Lambert out plays those guys in the AHL. We still have Meanalanen kicking around who probably is a better overall player for what is realistically needed on the team. Then the 12 other guys listed as forwards on Capfriendly.

At the absolute best he might be the 12th best forward On the Jets. And that’s generous. Is that where you want a rookie to be? Playing 4th line? Getting 7-8 shifts a game?

Hes 18 and he has skipped enough steps to where he was overwhelmed just last season/WJC. But 2 preseason games and it’s straight to the NHL? There is no hurry. Let him play top 6 on the Moose and fight to be the first called up on an injury. It’s not going to hurt him and the upside is far greater.

 

[Bigfish]

I don’t care about a couple preseason games it means so little when it comes down to it. The sample size is tiny and the competition is relatively low. He isn’t getting demoted “just because”. In fact you seem to want to keep him “ just because”.

So many people get so excited over nothing. Great, a good AHL player played good against AHL players. We saw the excitement on these boards over Eyssimont and Stenlund and they get sent down. I doubt Lambert out plays those guys in the AHL. We still have Meanalanen kicking around who probably is a better overall player for what is realistically needed on the team. Then the 12 other guys listed as forwards on Capfriendly.

At the absolute best he might be the 12th best forward On the Jets. And that’s generous. Is that where you want a rookie to be? Playing 4th line? Getting 7-8 shifts a game?

Hes 18 and he has skipped enough steps to where he was overwhelmed just last season/WJC. But 2 preseason games and it’s straight to the NHL? There is no hurry. Let him play top 6 on the Moose and fight to be the first called up on an injury. It’s not going to hurt him and the upside is far greater.

12th best forward on the Jets. And that's generous. That's hilarious is what that is. He's already better than half the garbage we have in our bottom 6. He's easily better than Harkins and Toninato and probably better than Gus and Appleton.

 

[TS Quint]

12th best forward on the Jets. And that's generous. That's hilarious is what that is. He's already better than half the garbage we have in our bottom 6. He's easily better than Harkins and Toninato and probably better than Gus and Appleton.

I think that’s pretty optimistic. But I hope you are right.

 

[Jet]

Sounds like something a millenial would say...

BROOOO IM GEN X

 

[surixon]

12th best forward on the Jets. And that's generous. That's hilarious is what that is. He's already better than half the garbage we have in our bottom 6. He's easily better than Harkins and Toninato and probably better than Gus and Appleton.

I mean this the same Lambert that couldn't unseat a number of his own age group a month ago. He also couldn't win a key spot over what I would consider comparable talent to our bottom 6 crap on his Liga team last year.

Noone is saying that he doesn't have more natural talent and athletic ability. He clearly does but how he uses that talent in many ways is unrefined. What is best for him and the Jets, playing 8 minutes a night or playing 18 in a role that will allow him to work on his decision making while rounding our his weak areas?

Do we want a fourth liner or do we want someone who if given enough prime minutes might be able to step into an NHL top 6 and not look back like Conner and Perfetti did after an extended stint in the AHL?

Personally I vote the latter everyday of the week as it will have a far bigger Impact then Brad being marginally better then say Harkins on the fourth line.

 

[heretik27]

I mean this the same Lambert that couldn't unseat a number of his own age group a month ago. He also couldn't win a key spot over what I would consider comparable talent to our bottom 6 crap on his Liga team last year.

Noone is saying that he doesn't have more natural talent and athletic ability. He clearly does but how he uses that talent in many ways is unrefined. What is best for him and the Jets, playing 8 minutes a night or playing 18 in a role that will allow him to work on his decision making while rounding our his weak areas?

Do we want a fourth liner or do we want someone who if given enough prime minutes might be able to step into an NHL top 6 and not look back like Conner and Perfetti did after an extended stint in the AHL?

Personally I vote the latter everyday of the week as it will have a far bigger Impact then Brad being marginally better then say Harkins on the fourth line.

I still have nightmares of Ehlers being saddled with Chris Thorburn and Burmistrov I think it was because Paul Maurice wanted him to "improve his defense".

 

[Bigfish]

I mean this the same Lambert that couldn't unseat a number of his own age group a month ago. He also couldn't win a key spot over what I would consider comparable talent to our bottom 6 crap on his Liga team last year.

Noone is saying that he doesn't have more natural talent and athletic ability. He clearly does but how he uses that talent in many ways is unrefined. What is best for him and the Jets, playing 8 minutes a night or playing 18 in a role that will allow him to work on his decision making while rounding our his weak areas?

Do we want a fourth liner or do we want someone who if given enough prime minutes might be able to step into an NHL top 6 and not look back like Conner and Perfetti did after an extended stint in the AHL?

Personally I vote the latter everyday of the week as it will have a far bigger Impact then Brad being marginally better then say Harkins on the fourth line.

No where in my post did i say he should be in the NHL this year. The point that i was making is that he is already better than some of the garbage players we have in our bottom 6. He has certainly been a pleasant surprise and deserves a longer look with the big team. Maybe even a few games to start the season and go from there.

 

[Buffdog]

I don’t care about a couple preseason games it means so little when it comes down to it. The sample size is tiny and the competition is relatively low. He isn’t getting demoted “just because”. In fact you seem to want to keep him “ just because”.

So many people get so excited over nothing. Great, a good AHL player played good against AHL players. We saw the excitement on these boards over Eyssimont and Stenlund and they get sent down. I doubt Lambert out plays those guys in the AHL. We still have Meanalanen kicking around who probably is a better overall player for what is realistically needed on the team. Then the 12 other guys listed as forwards on Capfriendly.

At the absolute best he might be the 12th best forward On the Jets. And that’s generous. Is that where you want a rookie to be? Playing 4th line? Getting 7-8 shifts a game?

Hes 18 and he has skipped enough steps to where he was overwhelmed just last season/WJC. But 2 preseason games and it’s straight to the NHL? There is no hurry. Let him play top 6 on the Moose and fight to be the first called up on an injury. It’s not going to hurt him and the upside is far greater.

I don't want to keep him "just because". I want to keep him because he's shown flashes of brilliance and want to see if it's sustainable vs every day NHL competition. If not, he can still be sent to the moose (or seattle).

If his age weren't a factor, everyone here would be gushing over him. Lots of people here wanted to go after UFAs that don't have his speed or skill level.

Yes, he was underwhelming at both WJC and Liiga. But maybe that had more to do with the style of play being asked and the people around him. Only one way to find out

 

[TS Quint]

I don't want to keep him "just because". I want to keep him because he's shown flashes of brilliance and want to see if it's sustainable vs every day NHL competition. If not, he can still be sent to the moose (or seattle).

If his age weren't a factor, everyone here would be gushing over him. Lots of people here wanted to go after UFAs that don't have his speed or skill level.

Yes, he was underwhelming at both WJC and Liiga. But maybe that had more to do with the style of play being asked and the people around him. Only one way to find out

If you are even considering WHL for him then you can’t seriously believe he is ready.

Its 2 preseason games Vs. Benching at the WJC and being a poor player in Liiga.

No, there isn’t one way to find out. That’s ridiculous. If that’s the case we need a 50 man roster and find out the one and only way for each player.

 

[ffh]

I mean this the same Lambert that couldn't unseat a number of his own age group a month ago. He also couldn't win a key spot over what I would consider comparable talent to our bottom 6 crap on his Liga team last year.

Noone is saying that he doesn't have more natural talent and athletic ability. He clearly does but how he uses that talent in many ways is unrefined. What is best for him and the Jets, playing 8 minutes a night or playing 18 in a role that will allow him to work on his decision making while rounding our his weak areas?

Do we want a fourth liner or do we want someone who if given enough prime minutes might be able to step into an NHL top 6 and not look back like Conner and Perfetti did after an extended stint in the AHL?

Personally I vote the latter everyday of the week as it will have a far bigger Impact then Brad being marginally better then say Harkins on the fourth line.

You honestly think the jets keep him and only play him 8 minutes a game. He will get a regular shift as long as he is up. Every prospect that gets sent down has proven they don't belong that hasn't happened yet with lambert.

 

[Buffdog]

If you are even considering WHL for him then you can’t seriously believe he is ready.

Its 2 preseason games Vs. Benching at the WJC and being a poor player in Liiga.

No, there isn’t one way to find out. That’s ridiculous. If that’s the case we need a 50 man roster and find out the one and only way for each player.

I'm considering everything for him. When we drafted him (and subsequent WJC) WHL looked like the spot for him. Young Stars made me reconsider it and maybe the moose is the best spot. Now TC has me reconsidering that.

What's the point of having a training camp and inviting players who have no chance at making the team? Why not just decide on your 23 and start preparing.

If he were a 19 or 20 year old, you'd be singing a different tune. If he was 1st or 2nd overall, same thing. So far in camp he's looked good enough to get an extended look. I'm not sure why you're so against that.

 

[surixon]

I'm considering everything for him. When we drafted him (and subsequent WJC) WHL looked like the spot for him. Young Stars made me reconsider it and maybe the moose is the best spot. Now TC has me reconsidering that.

What's the point of having a training camp and inviting players who have no chance at making the team? Why not just decide on your 23 and start preparing.

If he were a 19 or 20 year old, you'd be singing a different tune. If he was 1st or 2nd overall, same thing. So far in camp he's looked good enough to get an extended look. I'm not sure why you're so against that.

I mean most teams have 90% of their rosters set prior to camp. It's pretty much called training camp, it's not called tryouts.

The org wants a lot of bodies so they can assess where the players are and instruct them all on systems so they have a base knowledge of them for future callups/camps.

 

[scelaton]

I mean most teams have 90% of their rosters set prior to camp. It's pretty much called training camp, it's not called tryouts.

The org wants a lot of bodies so they can assess where the players are and instruct them all on systems so they have a base knowledge of them for future callups/camps.

Agree., Besides, Lambert looks like he may have changed their minds about his suitability for our AHL roster. That would be a huge accomplishment, considering it looked like he would need a complete reset to optimize his potential, starting with this year in the WHL.

 

[macmaroon]

Sorry, didn't drink my morning coffee

 

[ps241]

If he plays the last two more season games and impresses, it will give the Jets a real tough decision at the very least.

Im just happy we’ve got a guy with some unexpected but well deserved buzz right now. We’re not seeing anything like this from McGroarty or Lucius so I’m going to enjoy it as long as it lasts.

I trust the Jets will make a good decision for the player and the franchise.

So even though his ELC option had expired due to too many games in the NHL he was still not able to play in the AHL?

 

[ps241]

Looks like the Jets lucked out on this guy and he's no Chaz!

Settle down there Detective.................. you know he's going to disappoint you before the snow flies Sip.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

So even though his ELC option had expired due to too many games in the NHL he was still not able to play in the AHL?

Who are you talking about? Lambert?

 

[drumzan]

Millennials are in their 40s dude

Only those born in 1981 and 1982. Majority of millennials are in their 30’s or late-20’s.

 

[snowkiddin]

I still can’t believe we got him, Barron and Salomonsson for a few weeks of Copp. Wtf, talk about overpay. Thank you, Rangers!

 

[Jet]

I still can’t believe we got him, Barron and Salomonsson for a few weeks of Copp. Wtf, talk about overpay. Thank you, Rangers!

We really took the Rags out behind the woodshed on that one.

 

[snowkiddin]

We really took the Rags out behind the woodshed on that one.

I’m sure they’re happy they made it to the ECF, though. I sure am.

 

[macmaroon]

I’m sure they’re happy they made it to the ECF, though. I sure am.

Well worth the millions in extra playoff revenue...