Dreakon13
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Yeah, there's no way I could justify paying 7-8+ mill for another offensive-minded defensemen on a team that can't defend.
Player Discussion Bowen Byram - LHD (4th OA 2019 - Trade with Avs 3-6-2024) 22 YO - Signed Thru 2024-25 $3.85 Million Cap Hit (RFA)
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Fjordsen
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My Cozen Dylan
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If he's not dealt, I think a two-year deal is most likely. He'd still be an RFA after.
Byram had a chance to step up when Dahlin was out. They lost 13 games. He gets 7 tops for me or gone.
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Adams should run to sign the 7 year deal if agreed upon. Byram is the type of all-around player we need more of.
And look to trade Power for a center.
old kummelweck
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I certainly hope all of you that have hard numbers in your head have revised them up to reflect the % increase in the cap, i.e. 8.5% increase from 88m for next season, 18% from $88m in 26/27, and 29% from $88m in 27/28. If you average that out over a longer deal, you are looking at around 18%. That makes a pre-increase deal of $7m AAV landing at about $8.26 AAV.
So buckle up.
So buckle up.
As I recall AFP takes into account the upcoming salary cap bumps.
Satanphonehome
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Good players are redundant on this team? How you going to replace his 23 hard minutes a night?
Other than Thompson and Dahlin, who has been a better player for the Sabres this year?
How many defencemen not named Dahlin have had a better season for the Sabres in the past 15 years?
It’s weird how attached people are to their initial opinions as opposed to what they watch in the ice.
ValJamesDuex
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Also weird you do not mention Byram may not want to extend here and would prefer going to a playoff team, with power play time, and Right side D1 minutes ?
ForsbergMoDo21
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Given the amount of powerplay time he gets relative to his even strength production, it sure seems like he doesn't have the space the be utilized to his full potential on this team. Especially since as they are wont to do, Sabres brass are insistent on giving everything to Power despite his youth, inexperience, and timidness being a major issue. If a better player in Byram can't displace Power, what's going on? He's redundant because that situation is what it is, and because this team desperately need(s)/(ed) a middle six center in Mittelstadt far more than they need another $8 million defenseman.
That said, I took in a live game for the first time in months and it really stood out how much stronger in front of his net he is than Power. That is definitely an aspect of my opinion on the player himself that's changing. As we all know, it's difficult to evaluate players on this team. Is it the player? Or is it Sabreitis? The myriad successes of Sabres castoffs suggest it's the latter more than the former.
I'd be fine if they kept Byram and traded Power. But having both seems unnecessary. With his extension and the current lineup, the Sabres would be icing a nearly $40 million, extraordinarily top-heavy defense corp.
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Who is going to replace Byram’s minutes and how are you going to acquire him?
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Why is that weird? It wasn’t central to the Post I was responding to.
And I’m curious how many playoff teams are going to be acquiring Byram with the intention of using him like you describe? I’m highly skeptical there are many.
Fjordsen
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Why only playoff teams? Calgary is the obvious choice if Andersson gone. Maybe Florida and St. Louis.
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He is an RFA and if he doesn't want to resign here he has to wait 3 more years for that to happen.
Fjordsen
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Why three years? And you're forgetting the Adams/Terry credo, "Guys who want to be here." If Byram doesn't want to sign an extension here, I bet Adams trades him at TDL or in the summer.
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Would be funny if they traded someone who wants to be here, for someone who doesn't want to sign
We have no idea what the situation is with Byram and if he wants or doesn't want to sign somewhere.
ValJamesDuex
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Were going to know pretty soon just by what happens at the deadline or summer.
Partnerships are important and there is no denying that 26/4 is a very good partnership. It took them forever to find that partner for 26.
What is the forums feelings on Byram being top 10 in 5v5 scoring in the league ? Does that translate in anyway to PP1 potential or ?
Watching Dahlin and Byram dominate last night and also how comfortable they are rotating positions, it seems obvious that the answer to getting Byram PP1 minutes is to just use them together on the PP. Dahlin could be put on the wall and run the PP from there like Kucherov does. His puck skills are at that level.
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The post I was replying to said playoff teams.
I think yours is more realistic: does he want to be "the guy" for mediocre team in another city, or be Dahlin's partner for this team in this city.
The money is probably going to be similar regardless.
My issue with this conversation is framing Byram as 'redundant'.
On the contrary, he has provided the Sabres with a capable partner for Dahlin for probably the first time in 26's career — someone who can skate 23 minutes a night against the other team's top players and succeed.
He's +11 playing on the first pair of a last-place team at 23; that's pretty rare. Moritz Seider is -2 playing similar minutes on a playoff team at that same age. Seider has 6 more points, but 17 of his points are on the PP compared to Byram's 2.
And no, I'm not saying Byram is Seider. It's very clear Byram's success is buoyed by Dahlin and he should not be paid like Seider.
I just have trouble with people thinking that he will need to be paid like Seider in order to keep him.
And with them looking past the fact that Byram is actually succeeding in a role they continue to cling to thinking he's not suited for.
Fjordsen
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I have no problem paying Byram, I'm talking about whether Byram himself wants to stay in Buffalo or not. But we are definitely missing some good defensive players on defense and someone will have to go (maybe not Byram).
My Cozen Dylan
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Really don't want to move him.
