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TSN: Both TSN and ESPN look at the future of all 32 teams and the Bruins don't score well

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Pierre McGuire on CKGM Montreal didn't mince words over Monty being fired and went after Sweeney.

Hockey analyst Pierre McGuire on why he doesn't like the Bruins decision to fire Jim Montgomery and how their off-season acquisitions were oversold

It pains me but this clip represents where the team stands today



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Montreal Canadiens are No. 1 in TSN's annual NHL team ranking of U-24 players | TSN

Bolstered by a group of five players born outside Canada, the NHL's all-time Stanley Cup leader has a core of young players projected to be as strong as or better than any in the league.
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NHL Future Power Rankings: Predicting best, worst teams for the next three seasons

Which NHL teams are set up for long-term success? We stacked all 32 franchises' expectations through 2026-27.
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chizzler said:
Wow……big deal. Captain obvious. Canadiens sucking for 30+years…..I’ll take a little setback and enjoy the ride they’ve been on.
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I'm not sure we're in the midst of a "little setback", though.

It seems to me that there's a decent chance that we settle into a spot where we're not good enough to grab the 8th seed, and barring some lottery luck, not bad enough to be in position to draft a true franchise changer.

We're also committed to spending $48 million/year for our six highest-paid players, who already aren't really getting the job done.

To be honest, we're a bit of a mess right now.
 
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The knees are buckling.

We’ll see if the franchise can recover and stabilize, or if this is the knockout punch.

In a cap league, bottoming out is bound to happen.

But in the NHL, the past 20 years of the cap have taught us two lessons:

1. Stockpiling lottery picks is no guarantee of success

2. A franchise can reload rather quickly and be back in the game within 2-3 seasons if they make the right moves
 
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smithformeragent said:
The knees are buckling.

We’ll see if the franchise can recover and stabilize, or if this is the knockout punch.

In a cap league, bottoming out is bound to happen.

But in the NHL, the past 20 years of the cap have taught us two lessons:

1. Stockpiling lottery picks is no guarantee of success

2. A franchise can reload rather quickly and be back in the game within 2-3 seasons if they make the right moves
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All true, but the Bruins hands will be a little tied in a few years with a lot of cap locked up in guys in their mid 30s (significant decline years) with NMCs/NTCs, their superstars entering their decline years at that same time, and not much in the pipeline.
 
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I'll only be worried if they buy here. If they do, it's bad.

if they don't, I'm not nearly as worried as these analysts. And even less so if we slot in the top 6-8 before the lotto. We have the worst goal differential in the NHL. A top 8 pick is becoming very likely.

I also think we need a new system. I think with that we have an interesting core.
 
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I like McGuire's subtle little digs at the Boston pro scouting. It should also be noted that he thinks the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics" is baloney and he's worked in an NHL front office.
 
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I like McGuire's subtle little digs at the Boston pro scouting. It should also be noted that he thinks the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics" is baloney and he's worked in an NHL front office.
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He's worked there the way Dave Lewis did, but worse. For context.
 

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smithformeragent said:
The knees are buckling.

We’ll see if the franchise can recover and stabilize, or if this is the knockout punch.

In a cap league, bottoming out is bound to happen.

But in the NHL, the past 20 years of the cap have taught us two lessons:

1. Stockpiling lottery picks is no guarantee of success

2. A franchise can reload rather quickly and be back in the game within 2-3 seasons if they make the right moves
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IF !!!!. if the dog didn't stop to shit, he would have caught the rabbit
 
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BruinDust said:
I like McGuire's subtle little digs at the Boston pro scouting. It should also be noted that he thinks the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics" is baloney and he's worked in an NHL front office.
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I don't understand the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics". Usually players stick together when it comes to contracts. Also, it was Neely who let out the $$. If I was a player, i'd be pissed about that. How can you trust the FO when negotiating with them.
Maybe the team is giving up on the FO? not Swayman. Or maybe they just stink.
 
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I don't understand the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics". Usually players stick together when it comes to contracts. Also, it was Neely who let out the $$. If I was a player, i'd be pissed about that. How can you trust the FO when negotiating with them.
Maybe the team is giving up on the FO? not Swayman. Or maybe they just stink.
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Foolishness started by Friedman and continued by Felger.

There may be issues in the room, issues with the culture, but it isn't because of Lewis Gross.
 
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Foolishness started by Friedman and continued by Felger.

There may be issues in the room, issues with the culture, but it isn't because of Lewis Gross.
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I agree. Not buying it. Nobody is mad because it just benefits them.
 
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I agree. Not buying it. Nobody is mad because it just benefits them.
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Ruthless cut-throat business like pro sports players are going to side with other players, not management. I can't see the Bruins dressing room having a bunch of yes-men under the thumb of Sweeney and Neely.
 

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I don't understand the whole "Swayman broke the dressing room/culture with his negotiating tactics". Usually players stick together when it comes to contracts. Also, it was Neely who let out the $$. If I was a player, i'd be pissed about that. How can you trust the FO when negotiating with them.
Maybe the team is giving up on the FO? not Swayman. Or maybe they just stink.
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Maybe the contract was an issue with his teammates, because he was not in camp and certainly his play is not helping. They also might a little pissed that just maybe he thought he too important to take less money, had them over a barrel, and his stupid comment, did not go over well in the Lockeroom. If I had my way his ass would be out of here and the money could be used elsewhere, and I also said that before he signed when I was hearing his numbers. I rip Sweeney and Neely pretty steady in this forum, But I must tell you Neely's comments about the 64 mil reasons why, to me was refreshing. This candy ass, is still pissing and moaning about the arbitration, from a year ago. Bulldog , my ass. He is weak, and might have a partial reason, Monty loss his job, and before you screaming Monty had it coming, I agree, but get fired because of you not the job, not because his goaltender couldn't do his.
 
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Maybe the contract was an issue with his teammates, because he was not in camp and certainly his play is not helping. They also might a little pissed that just maybe he thought he too important to take less money, had them over a barrel, and his stupid comment, did not go over well in the Lockeroom. If I had my way his ass would be out of here and the money could be used elsewhere, and I also said that before he signed when I was hearing his numbers. I rip Sweeney and Neely pretty steady in this forum, But I must tell you Neely's comments about the 64 mil reasons why, to me was refreshing. This candy ass, is still pissing and moaning about the arbitration, from a year ago. Bulldog , my ass. He is weak, and might have a partial reason, Monty loss his job, and before you screaming Monty had it coming, I agree, but get fired because of you not the job, not because his goaltender couldn't do his.
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Dude, you make some points that I agreed with, but you take this stuff wayyyyyy too seriously. It's sports, not life.
 
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