Speculation: Boston - Vancouver

[easton117]

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Lol well done!

 

[BB88]

Sweeney should be fired if he sits on prospects and picks instead of being bold for the sake of Bergeron and Rask's rapidly closing window. As long as those 2 are around, prospects and picks serve no purpose except to acquire assets who'll help NOW.

So go after Hertl/Miller.

They need upgrade at C desperately

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Garland is a good player and would be a nice fit on the Bruins ,but I think they need some size for the playoffs . I also want to keep Lysell for now they need to build up their prospect pool.......

That’s fair, but calling him a low end second liner is ridiculous

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

That’s an overpayment for Boston & I like Garland

 

[Cogburn]

I mean the only two assets that stand out to me on the Bruins (as far as our needs and time table go) are Carlo (still...and yes, I know he's not moving) and Lysell. That's not to say there aren't talented players, or even those that wouldn't fit the Canucks like a glove if we were competing, but we need top talent prospects for a rebuild, and we need some higher tier RHD (above Poolman, Schenn and even Myers) that won't age out by the time we are looking to compete. Rutherford says 2 years, but we've heard that before. I think there are better prospects that could be available over Lysell, although I like him a lot, plus he's a Giant. Carlo would be perfect as a fit for our D, given his age, experience, style of play and size, but I doubt he's available so soon after signing an extension. That and his injury history worries me, but we've had worse medical reports from our blueline.

Outside of that, I don't think we can really make great trading partners for a guy like Garland, as he provides energy we don't get from anyone else on a regular basis. If we could stretch him out to 6'4 and have him weigh 235 as his playing weight, without affecting his play style he'd be untouchable.

 

[BruinsJoe]

Is Garland could be the bargaining chip to get rid of OEL?

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

I have no interest anymore. I don't think he has had a bounce back year. If anything, his mediocre performance with a better team than Arizona, shows he is well unto the back nine and massively overpaid.

this is accurate

I’d assess his play this year as:

he was there. he was definitely present at the hockey game: in attendance.

(not worth his contract whatsoever)

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Is Garland could be the bargaining chip to get rid of OEL?

Maybe but if the return was nothing, then the Canucks would have given up the 9th overall last year for one year of Garland and OEL. (Nothing)

the bloated contracts sent with the first for OEL/Garland expire this year IIRC.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Maybe but if the return was nothing, then the Canucks would have given up the 9th overall last year for one year of Garland and OEL. (Nothing)

the bloated contracts sent with the first for OEL/Garland expire this year IIRC.

It was a terrible trade that Benning was allowed to make in order to try and salvage his job for another season. It failed and probably set the franchise back another couple seasons.

 

[wetcoast]

biggest of passes.

no 40 pt seasons and 1 20 goal season doesn't make you worth a blue chip prospect plus a great looking prospect in Lysell

You are right a 39 point season (and 22 goals) in 68 games then Shortened, then a 39 point season in another Coivid shorted one in 49 games.

Boston has also been really hit and miss with their first rounders in the last 10 years so a 25ish pick and Lysell (who isn't exactly scorching the WHL in his D+1 year but is a good prospect might be fair value for a 20 goal 50 point very good ES guy who is signed for a decent term.

The window for Boston is also closing very fast as Bergeron ages.

All that being said I think the window has closed for Boston.

 

[wintersej]

You are right a 39 point season (and 22 goals) in 68 games then Shortened, then a 39 point season in another Coivid shorted one in 49 games.

Boston has also been really hit and miss with their first rounders in the last 10 years so a 25ish pick and Lysell (who isn't exactly scorching the WHL in his D+1 year but is a good prospect might be fair value for a 20 goal 50 point very good ES guy who is signed for a decent term.

The window for Boston is also closing very fast as Bergeron ages.

All that being said I think the window has closed for Boston.

In the past 10 years: Hamilton, Subban, Pasta, Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn, McAvoy, Vaakaneinen, Beecher and Lysell.

Hamilton, Pasta and McAvoy obvious hits. DeBrusk…that’s a spicy conversation obviously. 25 goals per 82 games his first three years and then 1.5 shit years. Zboril was looking like a top 4 before he blew his knee this season, obvious disappointment relative to who they could have had, but an NHL player. Senyshyn obviously a disaster. Vaakaneinen currently playing top pair. Beecher looking like he won’t ever be a top sixer, but has a game that can translate to the bottom six. And then Lysell. For where they have been drafting the last ten years, I think that actually really good!

 

[UConn126]

In the past 10 years: Hamilton, Subban, Pasta, Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn, McAvoy, Vaakaneinen, Beecher and Lysell.

Hamilton, Pasta and McAvoy obvious hits. DeBrusk…that’s a spicy conversation obviously. 25 goals per 82 games his first three years and then 1.5 shit years. Zboril was looking like a top 4 before he blew his knee this season, obvious disappointment relative to who they could have had, but an NHL player. Senyshyn obviously a disaster. Vaakaneinen currently playing top pair. Beecher looking like he won’t ever be a top sixer, but has a game that can translate to the bottom six. And then Lysell. For where they have been drafting the last ten years, I think that actually really good!

You forgot Freddy!

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

You are right a 39 point season (and 22 goals) in 68 games then Shortened, then a 39 point season in another Coivid shorted one in 49 games.

Boston has also been really hit and miss with their first rounders in the last 10 years so a 25ish pick and Lysell (who isn't exactly scorching the WHL in his D+1 year but is a good prospect might be fair value for a 20 goal 50 point very good ES guy who is signed for a decent term.

The window for Boston is also closing very fast as Bergeron ages.

All that being said I think the window has closed for Boston.

As a Bruins fan, I hate admitting it, but our window ended with the swan song 2019 run and 2020 regular season. The Bergeron-Marchand duo will bring us a chance..., but I think lack of talent down the lineup is the killer.

Everything after that has been trending downwards, with a weak prospect pool.

We have a few bright spots, but I don't think any of them should be traded for a few half-assed attempts to make it to the 2nd round.

A few years ago, I'd easily say trade a Lysell type for current Garland.

But we just aren't there anymore, IMO.

Rumors have Sweeney in a hot seat to break the 2nd round... so I can see him making some moves I don't agree with. Which could be beneficial to the other team.

But we'll see.

 

[wetcoast]

In the past 10 years: Hamilton, Subban, Pasta, Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn, McAvoy, Vaakaneinen, Beecher and Lysell.

Hamilton, Pasta and McAvoy obvious hits. DeBrusk…that’s a spicy conversation obviously. 25 goals per 82 games his first three years and then 1.5 shit years. Zboril was looking like a top 4 before he blew his knee this season, obvious disappointment relative to who they could have had, but an NHL player. Senyshyn obviously a disaster. Vaakaneinen currently playing top pair. Beecher looking like he won’t ever be a top sixer, but has a game that can translate to the bottom six. And then Lysell. For where they have been drafting the last ten years, I think that actually really good!

Hamilton was 11 drafts ago

 

[Johnsie19]

Hardest of Passes if that’s the price for Garland

Lysell should not be for sale, the Bruins rarely draft an offensively gifted forward, choosing to consistently go with the “safe” bottom 6 prospect, they shouldn’t trade the one they just drafted 6 months ago

Bruins should go for it while Marchand, Bergeron, Rask are still at the top. After that its going to be hard rebuild so Lysell wont be much help. I think they should be going after Miller hard and giving themselves a chances for the next two yrs. By 2024 those big three will likely be done or on their way out.

 

[nbwingsfan]

biggest of passes.

no 40 pt seasons and 1 20 goal season doesn't make you worth a blue chip prospect plus a great looking prospect in Lysell

39 in 49 and 38 in 68 signed for a great contract and can play pretty much all positions/lines? Pretty great guy to have