The Devilish Buffoon
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Proposal: Boston / Edmonton / Minnesota
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The Rask contract has like 3 months left on it, there's no need to "get out of it". You're also "parlaying" it into a shitty Barrie contract that we don't need, and a shitty Debrusk situation we don't need. Bourgault is a fine start, replace the rest of it with a 1st.
And this deal doesn't happen in season because Minnesota needs Fiala.
And this deal doesn't happen in season because Minnesota needs Fiala.
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Even if you think DeBrusk has zero value, Bruins don't give up Swayman + 2nd for Fiala to be stuck behind Marchand and Hall at LW.
Bruins are going to be more interested in spending their resources on a C or a D.
Bruins are going to be more interested in spending their resources on a C or a D.
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I edited the deal. Doesn't address all your concerns but simplified it. I originally had a 1st from Boston but Debrusk and Swayman are difficult to value so I struggled over whether it should be a 1st or 2nd. I definitely also considered that Fiala might just not get dealt until the summer.
Fair, my understanding was that Fiala was quite comfortable on the right side. I valued Debrusk at around a 3rd, which I think is fair.
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If Swayman is going out, a prospect at least as good as Dylan Holloway is coming in.
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My assumption was that Boston would be looking for a player who can contribute this season if they were to deal Swayman. I can understand why Bruins fans would be torn on that issue.
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This deal makes no sense for Boston.
They give up Debrusk, a 2nd and a elite goalie prospect for.... Fiala and waiver fodder?
They give up Debrusk, a 2nd and a elite goalie prospect for.... Fiala and waiver fodder?
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Bourgault is as good as Holloway, he's just not quite as NHL ready, which is understandable given his age.
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Fiala is a pretty damn good piece. I think the equivalent of a late 1st, 2nd and 3rd is around what he will return.
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Fiala is a good player! But regardless of value, I just don't think he is the *right* fit for the Bruins to make their one big deal on.
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I can get wanting to use your assets elsewhere but Fiala is a 25yr old 60+ point RFA. How do you value Debrusk, Swayman and Moore? I valued Swayman + Moore similarly to Lehner + Legwand in 2015 (21st OV) and Debrusk at a 3rd.
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Minnesota say no easily! They aren't trading fiala till the offseason! Fiala is. Cheaper, dynamic and will not be traded with Minnesota being a contender. Under no circumstances is Minnesota taking on Jake! Fiala will easily bring back a 1st and top prospect in offseason. Minnesota isn't taking on john moore either!
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Why are the Bruins giving up DeBrusk, a 2nd and Swayman for a 3rd line LW?
Ignoring that, the difference between DeBrusk and Fiala is not a 2nd + Swayman
cool, doesnt matter since he'd be the 3rd line LW in Boston behind Marchand and Hall. In Boston, his value is a 3rd liner
Ignoring that, the difference between DeBrusk and Fiala is not a 2nd + Swayman
cool, doesnt matter since he'd be the 3rd line LW in Boston behind Marchand and Hall. In Boston, his value is a 3rd liner
Minnesota is getting nothing from this! Fiala isn't getting traded during the season! They aren't taking on contract of Jake or john.
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I agree that it doesn't make much sense to add a player if you are planning to play them in a different position than the one they have had most of their success at... as noted, Fiala is a RW.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I know Bs need a 2C but they need a 2RW too.
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Really curious where the Lehner/Legwand comparison is coming from, I imagine Swayman is valued a good bit higher than that league wide.
I also don't think its likely Moore is moved right now, he got another concussion during the habs game and is likely out for a while.
For value, I don't think you're far off with Debrusk fetching a 3rd.
Moving Swayman isn't anything I'm interested in.
Fiala is a fine player, but has never scored 60 points in a season.
Literally the only thing Boston gains here is ridding themselves of a year of John Moore's contract, which isn't all that expensive to begin with. And they lose Swayman and a pick. I'll consider Fiala and Debrusk a wash because they wouldn't keep either one of them beyond this season anyway.
Fiala and Jake aren't a wash! Minnesota could trade fiala and get a 1st with top c prospect! Jake doesn't have any value! Also fiala has taken off since being paired with boldy
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I don’t mind targeting Swayman, but IMO he’s too young in his career for me to justify paying that kind of price for. He’d get nowhere near the kind of defensive support he does in Boston.
doesnt it just make more sense for the Bruins to hide him on the taxi squad anyway? Rask is coming in old and cold, trading Swayman now doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense for them.
doesnt it just make more sense for the Bruins to hide him on the taxi squad anyway? Rask is coming in old and cold, trading Swayman now doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense for them.
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