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Proposal: Boston and Vancouver

dredeye said:
Not thanks from the Bruins. We need some draft capital. Our pipeline is empty. Our board has talked about the first two pieces being in play for Petterson but not adding that other 1st. I'm not really interested in a hope and prayer for that pick. If Petterson doesn't come back to form that's an albatross.
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Fair enough and why I believe the split in Boston's fanbase regarding him reflects the split in Vancouver's fanbase regarding his value and if they should move him before the NTC kicks in.

So much risk/reward on both sides.

I personally think Boston is in more of a win-now mode than Vancouver and that the Canucks taking a top 7 pick this year who is ready in the first year of Quinn's new contract is more valuable than the Bruins wasting two years of McAvoy, Pastrnak and companies (I believe Boston's core players are older than Vancouver's and are larger in number) prime years.

I also expect the pick to be a top line player in 2 years. Is that too late?

As for the Toronto pick, we all loved the Seguin era of watching the Leafs tank for the Bruins but I don't see that group missing the playoffs anytime soon so that pick is a 1st in a deep draft that solidifies the trade for the Canucks knowing they are getting 3 assets for their distressed one now.

More risk/rewards.
 
Coach Parker said:
To Boston:

C Elias Pettersson ( 26 Years old, 7 Years at 11.6) (15G, 30A, 45 Points in 2024-2025, 89 Points in 2023-2024)

To Vancouer:

C Pavel Zacha (28 years old, 2 Years at 4.75) (14G, 33A 47 Points in 2024-2025, 57 Points in 2023-2024)
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C Casey Mittelstadt (26 Years Old, 2 Years at 5.75) (15G, 25A, 40 Points in 2024-2025, 57 points in 2023-2024)

2025 7th Overall
2026 Toronto 1st

Is this enough value for the Canucks to move on from Pettersson before his NTC kicks in and they draft the prospect they want to replace him while Mittelstadt OR Zacha replace his production?

Boston obviously paying for previous production and hopes that Pettersson would return to form and begin earning that contract.
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This Bruin fan does it.

EP40 is exactly what Pasta needs and I pay to get it done.
 
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Coach Parker said:
Fair enough and why I believe the split in Boston's fanbase regarding him reflects the split in Vancouver's fanbase regarding his value and if they should move him before the NTC kicks in.

So much risk/reward on both sides.

I personally think Boston is in more of a win-now mode than Vancouver and that the Canucks taking a top 7 pick this year who is ready in the first year of Quinn's new contract is more valuable than the Bruins wasting two years of McAvoy, Pastrnak and companies (I believe Boston's core players are older than Vancouver's and are larger in number) prime years.

I also expect the pick to be a top line player in 2 years. Is that too late?

As for the Toronto pick, we all loved the Seguin era of watching the Leafs tank for the Bruins but I don't see that group missing the playoffs anytime soon so that pick is a 1st in a deep draft that solidifies the trade for the Canucks knowing they are getting 3 assets for their distressed one now.

More risk/rewards.
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My concern is that the Bruins because of the lack of those cheap entry level contracts of players with value has forced us to try and buy out way out of the lack of prospect depth. This past season showed everyone what that looks like for us. I'm happy to weight for our pick to show up as we continue to buy our way full until they can come in.
 
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Petey's floor/ current situation looks to be where Zacha's ceiling is. If we're rebuilding I'd do it, otherwise (esp. if management wants to keep Hughes) I doubt we'd sell low on Petey since that's just admitting the current regime doesn't have what it takes. Might as well let Petey try to rebound.
 
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Pettersson beside Pastrnak easily returns to a 80-90 point season. That said, I really don’t think we’ll entertain this. I’d rather bank on him finding his mojo back with us with a full healthy off season and no drama.
 
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dredeye said:
My concern is that the Bruins because of the lack of those cheap entry level contracts of players with value has forced us to try and buy out way out of the lack of prospect depth. This past season showed everyone what that looks like for us. I'm happy to weight for our pick to show up as we continue to buy our way full until they can come in.
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Fair enough and probably the more logical approach is to embrace the two year re-tool.
 
PettersonHughes said:
Petey's floor/ current situation looks to be where Zacha's ceiling is. If we're rebuilding I'd do it, otherwise (esp. if management wants to keep Hughes) I doubt we'd sell low on Petey since that's just admitting the current regime doesn't have what it takes. Might as well let Petey try to rebound.
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Yeah, it feels like the direction the team is going needs to be decided before the draft and having a clear plan for Quinn decides that.

If the Canucks think Quinn will leave in two years, you move Pettersson now. If you think he will be resigning, you keep Pettersson and hope he returns to form as he is untradable July 1st. (When I say untradable, I mean that he then can choose to only play for one team and get a minimal return).
 
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Hard pass from Vancouver..........the only way we get back in the mix is hoping Pettersson gets back to form. Zach's ceiling isn't in the same stratosphere as EP's..........

EP isn't going to be any worse and is prime for a bounce back. If he doesn't we are screwed as well..........I'd rather take that chance than get a middling second line center with limited upside.
 
VancouverJagger said:
Hard pass from Vancouver..........the only way we get back in the mix is hoping Pettersson gets back to form. Zach's ceiling isn't in the same stratosphere as EP's..........

EP isn't going to be any worse and is prime for a bounce back. If he doesn't we are screwed as well..........I'd rather take that chance than get a middling second line center with limited upside.
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It wasn't suggested a 1 for 1 as everyone else saw the 7th Overall and Leafs 1st in 2026 having huge value. Zacha just comes in and matches what Pettersson gave the Canucks the last 18 months since signing until the 7th overall takes his spot in two years.
 
Coach Parker said:
To Boston:

C Elias Pettersson ( 26 Years old, 7 Years at 11.6) (15G, 30A, 45 Points in 2024-2025, 89 Points in 2023-2024)

To Vancouer:

C Pavel Zacha (28 years old, 2 Years at 4.75) (14G, 33A 47 Points in 2024-2025, 57 Points in 2023-2024)
OR
C Casey Mittelstadt (26 Years Old, 2 Years at 5.75) (15G, 25A, 40 Points in 2024-2025, 57 points in 2023-2024)

2025 7th Overall
2026 Toronto 1st

Is this enough value for the Canucks to move on from Pettersson before his NTC kicks in and they draft the prospect they want to replace him while Mittelstadt OR Zacha replace his production?

Boston obviously paying for previous production and hopes that Pettersson would return to form and begin earning that contract.
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Sounds like the Bruins might hire Tocchet.
 
Coach Parker said:
It wasn't suggested a 1 for 1 as everyone else saw the 7th Overall and Leafs 1st in 2026 having huge value. Zacha just comes in and matches what Pettersson gave the Canucks the last 18 months since signing until the 7th overall takes his spot in two years.
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Still zero interest - this would do nothing for us but make us go backwards.......a late first isn't gonna do us much good at all. Much rather gamble that EP regains form - that's really the only solution here.
 
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Coach Parker said:
Yeah, it feels like the direction the team is going needs to be decided before the draft and having a clear plan for Quinn decides that.

If the Canucks think Quinn will leave in two years, you move Pettersson now. If you think he will be resigning, you keep Pettersson and hope he returns to form as he is untradable July 1st. (When I say untradable, I mean that he then can choose to only play for one team and get a minimal return).
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I just think with someone like Hughes you keep trying until the deadline of his expiration year.

And then maybe you keep trying anyway.
 
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