GDT: boscar3

[Rad ChaLose]

Someone has to drop the gloves with Chara immediately next game. Jordo? Eddy? The league/refs obviously won't bring justice. I'm still of the opinion Chara wasn't intentionally injuring him but he has to answer the bell.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Amongst the many underperforming players on our roster, Slavin has been the most disappointing to me. Unnoticeable at best and actively bad at worst. We need our best players to play like it if we're gonna have any chance.

I think we're seeing why defensive defensemen tend to not get much love on a historical scale. You get the most exposure during the playoffs, in which the talent of the competition natural spikes especially among the top line competition. The only elite facet of your game is put under the microscope at the time when it is at peak difficulty to perform, and if you can't neutralize the most elite offensive talents of the game it becomes quickly apparent you don't have much else to offer.

The other factor that's Slavin specific is I think he does his best play when against a unit that plays primarily through a single player, that he and J. Staal can follow around all game and effectively neutralize. He doesn't do as well against teams with multiple elite players with chemistry, nor against really structured teams that can cycle and pass in lieu of trying to out talent him. Think Panarin and Barzal vs. Ovie/Backstrom/Kuznetsov. Boston happens to fit both qualifications, it's a horrible matchup for Slavin.

Other than that, much as I love Hamilton he (I think it was him) had another dumbass play, dumping it in while one guy was very offside with an empty net while 2-3 other guys were going off on a line change. Sad, he was a top-3 defenseman in the NHL this year before his broken leg.

Praying for Svech, though @Anton Dubinchuk 's avatar is once again relevant.

 

[Canes]

Someone has to drop the gloves with Chara immediately next game. Jordo? Eddy? The league/refs obviously won't bring justice.

Has Jordan got into a fight in his life? Edmundson has obviously preserving himself for UFA. And both would get murdered. We just have to go after Marchand, Bergeron or Pastrnak when he's back

 

[Joe McGrath]

Someone has to drop the gloves with Chara immediately next game. Jordo? Eddy? The league/refs obviously won't bring justice. I'm still of the opinion Chara wasn't intentionally injuring him but he has to answer the bell.

Why do you want someone else to get hurt?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

It's a physical game, especially the way Svech plays, and that's just another net front battle.

Yeah it didn't look particularly dirty in real time, it looked like they were trying to box each other out.

It's great to have a power forward, but sucks when you realize they tend to have a short shelf life in the NHL. People say Forsberg could have challenged the top quartet of NHL history if he hadn't had injuries, as if his style of play weren't directly correlated to those injuries.

 

[GoldiFox]

It's a physical game, especially the way Svech plays, and that's just another net front battle. There's no way Z could have planned that kind of injury. Let's hope he gets better and returns to his amazing form within the next year.

No way Chara could have planned it, agreed. But Chara is one of the only players in the NHL that can apply that type of pressure downward and parallel to the ice in order to make a leg snap that way. Svech is one of the strongest skaters around. I don't think that injury happens without some serious pressure in a deliberate way. Not deliberate to injure, but deliberate to drive to the opponent into ice which given Svech's stance did injure him badly.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Yeah it didn't look particularly dirty in real time, it looked like they were trying to box each other out.

And, of course, that's how they're playing: in real time. It's easy to slow down the video and look at it like you're looking at the Zapruder film, but in real time, there's no way Z was thinking anything except "don't let that guy get a good position".

 

[Identity404]

Wow they played like they all decided they wanted to go home like Rask.

Hope Svech is ok

 

[Navin R Slavin]

No way Chara could have planned it, agreed. But Chara is one of the only players in the NHL that can apply that type of pressure downward and parallel to the ice in order to make a leg snap that way. Svech is one of the strongest skaters around. I don't think that injury happens without some serious pressure in a deliberate way. Not deliberate to injure, but deliberate to drive to the opponent into ice which given Svech's stance did injure him badly.

"Serious pressure in a deliberate way" is what literally every player should be doing on every shift.

I get it, everyone's mad and everyone wants someone to blame. Sometimes life just ain't like that.

 

[Rad ChaLose]

Why do you want someone else to get hurt?

I don't. And this is obviously my emotional reaction to the injury. It's just that one of our most physical (and best) players is 20 years old and I'd like the team to stick up for him. Winning would be the ultimate pay-back, but I'd like physical payback as well.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Yeah, I'm not seeing any intentional attempt to injure there. Two players fighting for position in front of the net. Just unfortunate that it wound up like that

 

[GoldiFox]

"Serious pressure in a deliberate way" is what literally every player should be doing on every shift.

I get it, everyone's mad and everyone wants someone to blame. Sometimes life just ain't like that.

Driving a player down to the ice away from the puck is interference, which is not a legal play. I get those net front battles happen often but that injury is still on Chara's actions. It looked like he wanted to teach a lesson to a pesky forward he had been battling with all night and it turned out very poorly (or ideally depending on the interpretation of his smile).

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Driving a player down to the ice away from the puck is interference, which is not a legal play. I get those net front battles happen often but that injury is still on Chara's actions. It looked like he wanted to teach a lesson to a pesky forward he had been battling with all night and it turned out very poorly (or ideally depending on the interpretation of his smile).

They were fighting for position in front of the net. That happens on every shift in every NHL hockey game. I know you're upset, and I am too, but that's just not interference.

 

[Rad ChaLose]

I'm thinking the "smile" in that screenshot is actually a grimace from the physical battle. I highly doubt Chara is laughing in the middle of that play.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I'm thinking the "smile" in that screenshot is actually a grimace from the physical battle. I highly doubt Chara is laughing in the middle of that play.

Yup.

 

[bleedgreen]

The better team won. We had a huge shot advantage with us at 17 I think late first or early second. We had maybe 11 shots the rest of the game they had a ten shot lead. The better team won with them playing their albeit solid second string goalie and no Pasta. We can’t play less than 100% and win, it’s no different than last year.

Aho and TT are great players, but they can’t be the only scorers. They aren’t physical and in a grinding playoff series they can be negated to an extent. They’re sneaky and at their best when the other team takes a nap for a second. The lack of secondary scoring is no different than last year despite Trocheck and Necas. Necas has been ineffective altogether and Trocheck just isn’t clicking despite some solid all around play.

Mrazek was good again. If the B’s hadn’t basically shot it in their own net we wouldn’t have had a single goal.

 

[Star Ocean]

Pettersson had a similar situation in his rookie season. Was only out for 2 weeks.

 

[Roboturner913]

I missed everything after we scored to make it 2-1, but not surprised we lost. Not a lot of offense to speak of. Bruins are astonishingly good at stopping zone entries, it's hard not to admire the machinelike efficiency even if they are a bunch of weaselly slimeball pukes.

 

[Stickpucker]

The better team won. We had a huge shot advantage with us at 17 I think late first or early second. We had maybe 11 shots the rest of the game they had a ten shot lead. The better team won with them playing their albeit solid second string goalie and no Pasta. We can’t play less than 100% and win, it’s no different than last year.

Aho and TT are great players, but they can’t be the only scorers. They aren’t physical and in a grinding playoff series they can be negated to an extent. They’re sneaky and at their best when the other team takes a nap for a second. The lack of secondary scoring is no different than last year despite Trocheck and Necas. Necas has been ineffective altogether and Trocheck just isn’t clicking despite some solid all around play.

Mrazek was good again. If the B’s hadn’t basically shot it in their own net we wouldn’t have had a single goal.

To be fair a good bit looks mental. The 4 min pp goal seemed to totally deflate them.

Re Necas I don't think you can expect that much of him yet. He's a rookie who's being targeted and already come through with some big plays while having his brains scrambled a couple times and taking a knee on knee and still playing and being brave.

Beyond that he is a playmaker who's pp unit isn't seeing a ton of time trying to set up mostly Trochek and Dzingle or Nino.

 

[Stickpucker]

I volunteer for next GDT.

Does hfboards not allow drafts for threads?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I volunteer for next GDT.

Does hfboards not allow drafts for threads?

If you need a draft it’s too much effort IMO

 

[hblueridgegal]

wonder what Eddy’s issue is?

 

[Tryamw]

Never thought I'd say this but I miss Edmundson.

 

[Unsustainable]

One of my friends broke down the Chara:

Hate to say it... but that's an old blue liners trick....not a 'slewfoot'... you lock your right hip to his mid back, look thru the play, and follow the puck.... the forward tries to resist and maintain position and stumbles.... only thing a small forward can do is skate away from the check once Chara has locked up from behind....this is my jam...
Tough to call without distinct kicking motion...aka, greasy but legal...

 

[SlavinAway]

One of my friends broke down the Chara:

Hate to say it... but that's an old blue liners trick....not a 'slewfoot'... you lock your right hip to his mid back, look thru the play, and follow the puck.... the forward tries to resist and maintain position and stumbles.... only thing a small forward can do is skate away from the check once Chara has locked up from behind....this is my jam...
Tough to call without distinct kicking motion...aka, greasy but legal...

Yeah. I'm not arguing it's a specific penalty or that he was trying to cause a serious injury but I believe he 100% intended him to go to the ice one way or the other...