Proposal: BOS/VGK Cap Trade

[Clint Eastwood]

Double check the trade list and hope the Bruins aren't on it lol

To Bruins:

Dadonov
2023 1st
2022 2nd
2022 NYR 3rd
2023 3rd

To VGK:

Something to make the cap work


The Bruins would have no problem helping out the Golden Knights with some of their cap issues. Just have to pay a little price

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[M Ace]

Bruins need to send Swayman & Debrusk back to even make Vegas start talking....

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You do realize any team that "acquires" Dadonov cannot play him for until next season right?

 

[BlueBaron]

This is a confusing situation. My understanding is they are collecting cap penalties daily.

Seems to me this puts them at a bargaining disadvantage. Squeeze everything you can out of them.

 

[Patdud]

why would we take 5 mil of salary on for next season when we already have just 3.5 to sign Bergy?

 

[Viqsi]

Double check the trade list and hope the Bruins aren't on it lol

To Bruins:

Dadonov
2023 1st
2022 2nd
2022 NYR 3rd
2023 3rd

To VGK:

Something to make the cap work


The Bruins would have no problem helping out the Golden Knights with some of their cap issues. Just have to pay a little price

The Knights' 2023 1st isn't free to be moved because if their 2022 pick lands in the top-10, the 2023 pick goes to Buffalo.

 

[TGWL]

Can't see Vegas paying that price (different 1st) even if they shot themselves in the foot here, accidentally or knowingly.

 

[GAGLine]

Bruins don't have the cap space to take on Dadonov without sending cap back. Vegas needs to shed Dadonov's cap hit without taking cap back. There's no way for this trade to work.

This is a confusing situation. My understanding is they are collecting cap penalties daily.

Seems to me this puts them at a bargaining disadvantage. Squeeze everything you can out of them.

Vegas is not incurring any cap penalties. They are currently cap compliant. The issue is that they need about 4.8 mil in cap space to activate Martinez off LTIR. Trading Dadonov without taking cap back, or by taking only players back who are on LTIR, gives them that cap space.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

You do realize any team that "acquires" Dadonov cannot play him for until next season right?

100% I just want the picks.

But I forgot about the Martinez situation so this thread is becoming obsolete.

 

[BlueBaron]

Bruins don't have the cap space to take on Dadonov without sending cap back. Vegas needs to shed Dadonov's cap hit without taking cap back. There's no way for this trade to work.


Vegas is not incurring any cap penalties. They are currently cap compliant. The issue is that they need about 4.8 mil in cap space to activate Martinez off LTIR. Trading Dadonov without taking cap back, or by taking only players back who are on LTIR, gives them that cap space.

Yeah that's an issue. I'm pretty sure it's also an issue keeping healthy people from playing. There is a timer ticking.

 

[OTC]

You do realize any team that "acquires" Dadonov cannot play him for until next season right?

While there is a specific deadline for trades, teams can still acquire players from other clubs after March 21. The caveat is that any player traded after the March 21 deadline is not eligible to be placed on a team's postseason roster. They can play the rest of the regular season with their new squad, however.

 

[smytty]

I think you're wrong. Friedman and Marek addressed this on their latest podcast. They are ineligible to play regular season as well.

 

[Daz28]

Yeah that's an issue. I'm pretty sure it's also an issue keeping healthy people from playing. There is a timer ticking.

It looks like Stone won't be able to come off LTIR even if healthy AFTER a Dady trade. They'd have to waive him, and hope someone takes him. What if no one takes him? Then what? This is why the whole LTIR nonsense thing needs to be handled.

 

[Viqsi]

It looks like Stone won't be able to come off LTIR even if healthy AFTER a Dady trade. They'd have to waive him, and hope someone takes him. What if no one takes him? Then what? This is why the whole LTIR nonsense thing needs to be handled.

Enh. If Dadonov is traded and Martinez stays on LTIR, Stone could be activatd if Lehner goes on LTIR. Hypothetically.

If they're both healthy at the same time, Vegas might have to go Tonya Harding on somebody.

 

[BlueBaron]

It looks like Stone won't be able to come off LTIR even if healthy AFTER a Dady trade. They'd have to waive him, and hope someone takes him. What if no one takes him? Then what? This is why the whole LTIR nonsense thing needs to be handled.

Totally. It's a flawed system. It's so complicated and full of loop holes.

Cap shinnanagans are giving the league an awful look.

 

[Daz28]

Enh. If Dadonov is traded and Martinez stays on LTIR, Stone could be activatd if Lehner goes on LTIR. Hypothetically.

If they're both healthy at the same time, Vegas might have to go Tonya Harding on somebody.

Then you'd still have a healthy Alec on LTIR??? Just moving the titanic chairs around.

 

[Viqsi]

Then you'd still have a healthy Alec on LTIR??? Just moving the titanic chairs around.

Er. No. If they're both healthy simultaneously, Vegas is in trouble.

 

[Ishad]

Yeah that's an issue. I'm pretty sure it's also an issue keeping healthy people from playing. There is a timer ticking.

They can’t keep healthy players on the ir

 

[Daz28]

Er. No. If they're both healthy simultaneously, Vegas is in trouble.

From what I've seen AM will be healthy sooner, and Stone is a much better candidate for, "my back's just not feeling right, I think I should be on SSI"

 

[Price is Wright]

I think you're wrong. Friedman and Marek addressed this on their latest podcast. They are ineligible to play regular season as well.

I was unable to find any evidence of trades after the deadline and the player playing in the NHL, but there were definitely trades where the player played in the AHL after. Rocky Thompson played games for the Panthers AHL team after being traded from the St. John Flames.

It was a while ago so I don't know how rules have changed.

 

[jellybeans]

You do realize any team that "acquires" Dadonov cannot play him for until next season right?

Wrong he can play during the regular season just not the playoffs.

While there is a specific deadline for trades, teams can still acquire players from other clubs after March 21. The caveat is that any player traded after the March 21 deadline is not eligible to be placed on a team's postseason roster. They can play the rest of the regular season with their new squad, however.3 days ago

 

[UConn126]

why would we take 5 mil of salary on for next season when we already have just 3.5 to sign Bergy?

Bergeron can sign a 1 mil deal with bonuses worth whatever he wants because they can be pushed the following season when we have lot's of money (Smith, Foligno, Haula) all coming off the books.

 

[smytty]

Wrong he can play during the regular season just not the playoffs.

While there is a specific deadline for trades, teams can still acquire players from other clubs after March 21. The caveat is that any player traded after the March 21 deadline is not eligible to be placed on a team's postseason roster. They can play the rest of the regular season with their new squad, however.3 days ago

That was my understanding too, but as I said a couple posts back, Friedman and Marek say otherwise.
Also, a quote from Allen Walsh:

Many people think the NHL Trade Deadline is a Trade Deadline. It’s not. Players can still be traded after the Trade Deadline. However, traded players cannot play in any regular season and/or playoff games this season with the acquiring team.​

I'm having a hard time finding reliable info to prove this either way. There's a sporting news article that claims players are eligible to play regular season, but I trust Jeff Marek more than I trust the sporting news.

 

[Ciao]

Double check the trade list and hope the Bruins aren't on it lol

To Bruins:

Dadonov
2023 1st
2022 2nd
2022 NYR 3rd
2023 3rd

To VGK:

Something to make the cap work


The Bruins would have no problem helping out the Golden Knights with some of their cap issues. Just have to pay a little price

Probably worse than the penalty Vegas would receive for exceeding the cap, without trading Dadanov?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

The Knights' 2023 1st isn't free to be moved because if their 2022 pick lands in the top-10, the 2023 pick goes to Buffalo.

They could call Buffalo and see if the Sabres agree to take off the top 10 protection and say they can have it regardless.

I imagine Buffalo would go for that.