Proposal: BOS - PIT
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Why would the Pens be selling? They have a great shot this year.
Dumoulin is an interesting trade target, but I don't love the package.
Freddy is a personal favorite of mine, so I have a hard time letting him go + the 1st is probably a little too much. I counter with swap those two out for Studnicka and a 2nd.
Freddy is a personal favorite of mine, so I have a hard time letting him go + the 1st is probably a little too much. I counter with swap those two out for Studnicka and a 2nd.
The package isn't unfair, but Boston would decline.
Dumoulin, Vaakaneinen, Gryz, Reilly and Forbort at left D. Dumoulin is a clear upgrade, but not enough of an upgrade (or the right kind of upgrade) to justify either not allowing a potential top 4 in Vaakaneinen from developing or to justify having over 6 million in cap hits be scratched.
McAvoy with Vaak, Gryz or Reilly has been an effective pairing. XXX/Carlo has been the place that needs an upgrade. Don't think Dumoulin/Carlo provides enough puck movement.
Dumoulin, Vaakaneinen, Gryz, Reilly and Forbort at left D. Dumoulin is a clear upgrade, but not enough of an upgrade (or the right kind of upgrade) to justify either not allowing a potential top 4 in Vaakaneinen from developing or to justify having over 6 million in cap hits be scratched.
McAvoy with Vaak, Gryz or Reilly has been an effective pairing. XXX/Carlo has been the place that needs an upgrade. Don't think Dumoulin/Carlo provides enough puck movement.
Gurglesons
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I think the Penguins only do a deal like this if it is bringing back some bite. So while I like Studnicka, wouldn’t make sense.
I was kinda basing this off the Coburn for a 1st and Gudas deal.
Empoleon8771
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Uh, this seems.....pretty awful for Pittsburgh.
Dumoulin is a #2 DFD with 2 cup rings. Why is he being traded for 2 okay depth pieces and a late 1st? Hell, I don't even know if Moore is an "okay depth piece".
Swap Moore out with someone like Zboril and it seems less problematic, but I'm still pretty underwhelmed there.
Dumoulin is a #2 DFD with 2 cup rings. Why is he being traded for 2 okay depth pieces and a late 1st? Hell, I don't even know if Moore is an "okay depth piece".
Swap Moore out with someone like Zboril and it seems less problematic, but I'm still pretty underwhelmed there.
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So in the offseason then? Because they shouldn't be losing any LD during the season.
Having the offseason, training camp and early regular season to groom POJ is fine with me, from a certain perspective. Totally disagree with throwing him in at the trade deadline.
Gurglesons
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Moore likely would be LITR'd. Dumo for Frederic and a 1st would be the deal and would've give us some cap space to balance out the RD side and an asset that may allow us to move our 1st this year IMO.
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I'm not dealing a 1st for Dumoulin, especially with only 1 year left after this one on his deal.
Pens aren't in a spot to be dealing away contributors and Bruins arent in a spot to be dealing 1st round picks for defensemen on the wrong side of 30
Pens aren't in a spot to be dealing away contributors and Bruins arent in a spot to be dealing 1st round picks for defensemen on the wrong side of 30
Zboril is gonna be a UFA this offseason. His injuries this season means he won't meet the minimum games played. It sucks because he was finally putting it together, but I doubt he comes back to Boston to compete with Gryz, Reilly, Forbort, Vaakaneinen and Moore for three spots.
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If Boston deals a 1st it better be for a bigger piece than Dumoulin. Nothing wrong with the player but they need either a top 6RW, a #1-2C or a top pairing LHD and that 1st could be needed to bring that player in. If they don't deal the 1st this year they'll need it to help build the pantry back up.
bearcountry17
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Good proposal but I don't see Pittsburgh moving their #2 dman when they are second in their division during the twilight years of Crosby and Malkin.
Gurglesons
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Local guy who is a top 4 LD doesn't make sense for a team desperate at LD?
I’d say the Bruins biggest need is at center and that’s what the 1st round pick should be spent on. Dumoulin would be a great addition but not when there are bigger needs to address at the moment.
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Counterpoint - they get a 1st round pick for a player who isn't all that good and has a $4m cap hit. His cup rings have nothing to do with his play.
It doesn't really matter, these two teams won't trade with each other.
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I agree with you that I don't see this trade happening. You're mistaken if you don't think a guy that's a #2 dman with a reasonable cap hit doesn't bring back a 1st+ good prospect.
Even with Dumo a step behind his old self he's still more than desirable to any contender needing a steady minute eating dman.
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Ya I just disagree that's who he is. He offers zero transition value and his dzone coverage is at best slightly above average. Would you give up a first for Derek Forbort? They are extremely similar players at this stage. I'd like to fire Forbort into the sun, so you have my answer.
