Claimed off Waivers: [BOS] Bruins claim G Jiri Patera off waivers from the Canucks

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The solution is not letting bad goaltending ruin a season, and you bet the Canucks are within weeks of pure panic if they don’t get high end goaltending out of the gate.
They aren’t going to get high end goaltending from either Lyon or Husso.
When they signed Lankinen, they still thought Demko would be ready pretty quickly here, and who knows…. Maybe he changes his mind, and decides to push it this weekend, and everything works out great. That’s no longer the expectation though.

I’m coming at this from the angle, people better not be blindly relying on Thatcher Demko returning, and better yet, returning to form anytime soon…. There’s a whole lot of Vancouver fans doing just that, or worse yet, just blindly assuming Silovs is gonna take this and run with it. He was an .898 goalie in that 10 game run. That doesn’t get teams in the playoffs.

Even if he does push it, which he’s been very hesitant to do since early August, we have no idea what Demko we’re gonna get. It’s a permanent injury and he’s a goalie who’s always struggled not being 100%.

It doesn’t help that Silovs has a knee swelling issue too.

Who knows, maybe Silovs and Lankinen take this, run with it, and everyone’s happy, but what’s the chances of that actually happening?

I just think they’re gonna need someone who’s shown he can play consistently in long stretches. There’s probably other possibilities as well, but I’m sure Detroit would retain on Husso and Lyon is cheap. They’re both pending UFAs, so there’s no big commitment either.

People just can’t ignore the Demko issue. I’m telling you, he’s a way bigger question mark than people know, and others wanna admit.
You have zero idea what the actual timeline for Demko is. If Canucks’ management actually thought Demko was going to miss significant time this year, they would’ve been more aggressive adding a more proven goaltender. The fact you’re trying to advertise either Husso or Lyon as some significant upgrade over Lankinen or Silovs is quite comical.
Lyon has just gone on two huge runs, in back to back seasons. He got Florida in the playoffs, and almost got Detroit in. If he’s available, they’d be absolutely NEGLIGENT not trying to obtain him right now. There will be teams, including the Oilers, trying to get him if Detroit moves him.. Exactly because of those two runs he’s gone on, coupled with his AAV. Neither Silovs nor Lankinen has ever played goalie in the NHL like that.
Lyon played 44 games last year and put up a .904 SV%. Lankinen played 37 games for Chicago in 20/21 with a .909 SV%. You’re vastly overrating Lyon/underrating Lankinen. There’s absolutely no reason to not expect Lankinen to be able to provide average goaltending in a starting role, just like Lyon did last season.


There’s teams carrying 3 goalies a lot these days. When you have a big question like the Canucks have in net right now, not to mention they just lost their current #3, it’s smart to make sure goaltending doesn’t destroy their entire season.

It’s strange any fans would be against improving their goaltending room. It’s not like these type of goalies are gonna cost a top prospect or high draft picks.

I guarantee you, if they got Lyon this weekend for a 3rd Rounder, you watch how Vancouver fans, and the Vancouver media, talk about what a great move it was.
It’s strange thinking that Alex Lyon or Ville Husso would take the Canucks from being “petrified” about their goaltending to being content, but for some strange reason you’re trying to argue that.
 

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Lyon played 44 games last year and put up a .904 SV%. Lankinen played 37 games for Chicago in 20/21 with a .909 SV%. You’re vastly overrating Lyon/underrating Lankinen. There’s absolutely no reason to not expect Lankinen to be able to provide average goaltending in a starting role.



It’s strange thinking that Alex Lyon or Ville Husso would take the Canucks from being “petrified” about their goaltending to being content, but for some strange reason you’re trying to argue that.
Lyon had over a 930 save percentage during his runs. Are you trying to suggest he hasn’t done this over the last two years? We all know he has.

We’re also talking about goaltenders who may be available, who they’d be able to afford. Nobody’s trading them an elite goaltender. So how do you upgrade the room? You do it by acquiring someone like Lyon. Who’s proven he can put a team on his back two years in a row now.

It’s just strange people wouldn’t want to upgrade the goaltender room, or somehow think guys who’ve never done it, will suddenly step up and do just that.

If they don’t upgrade the room, we’re gonna find out if Silovs or Lankinen can do it. If they don’t though, it’ll cost a very good hockey team, their entire season.
 

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Lyon had over a 930 save percentage during his runs. Are you trying to suggest he hasn’t done this over the last two years? We all know he has.
Any goalie can get hot for a 7-9 game stretch like Lyon has in the past. This is your argument why Vancouver should trade for him???

We’re also talking about goaltenders who may be available, who they’d be able to afford. Nobody’s trading them an elite goaltender. So how do you upgrade the room? You do it by acquiring someone like Lyon. Who’s proven he can put a team on his back two years in a row now.

It’s just strange people wouldn’t want to upgrade the goaltender room, or somehow think guys who’ve never done it, will suddenly step up and do just that.

If they don’t upgrade the room, we’re gonna find out if Silovs or Lankinen can do it. If they don’t though, it’ll cost a very good hockey team, their entire season.
For some strange reason you’re assuming Lankinen/Silovs can’t split the goaltending duties while Demko is out yet Alex Lyon is the answer? That is some bizarre argument. Maybe worry about your own teams goaltending.
 

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Lyon had over a 930 save percentage during his runs. Are you trying to suggest he hasn’t done this over the last two years? We all know he has.

We’re also talking about goaltenders who may be available, who they’d be able to afford. Nobody’s trading them an elite goaltender. So how do you upgrade the room? You do it by acquiring someone like Lyon. Who’s proven he can put a team on his back two years in a row now.

It’s just strange people wouldn’t want to upgrade the goaltender room, or somehow think guys who’ve never done it, will suddenly step up and do just that.

If they don’t upgrade the room, we’re gonna find out if Silovs or Lankinen can do it. If they don’t though, it’ll cost a very good hockey team, their entire season.
'During his runs'

You posts are giving me the runs.

Something tells me you don't watch much of the Canucks games. You bark big but if I'm not mistaken you are a Wings fan. It's fine to say that you watch a shitload of hockey. But don't shout down the folks that watch the team every day. Demko is a stud when healthy. The team obviously plays differently when they don't have a top 3-5 goalie. But with their depth and with the coaching staff's ability to change the pace, guys like Silovs and Lankinen can hold the fort and it should easily be a playoff team.
 
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I wonder if his Bruins helmet that he sent for airbrushing would be finished before being reclaimed?
 

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Any goalie can get hot for a 7-9 game stretch like Lyon has in the past. This is your argument why Vancouver should trade for him???


For some strange reason you’re assuming Lankinen/Silovs can’t split the goaltending duties while Demko is out yet Alex Lyon is the answer? That is some bizarre argument. Maybe worry about your own teams goaltending.
I’m NOT the one assuming anything. Lol. That’s why they better be on top of this. I’m the one suggesting they should be “Looking” and NOT assuming.

It certainly doesn’t have to be Alex Lyon, but it needs to be someone who’s experienced the pressure Silovs and Lankinen are going to have, who they can “afford” this year.

There’s a reason Sportsnet had an article about it today.

You can also choose to believe it or not, but Demko has been in no hurry to press the issue. He knows he’s gonna have to at some point soon, but he’s still coming to terms that his body is never going to be the same again. So it really comes down to him getting into the best physical shape he can, and then waking up one morning and saying “let’s try pushing this thing, and see how it goes.” It’s NEVER gonna get any better than it’s been for while now, and he’s still not pushed it.. Thatcher also has other options outside of hockey, already in motion, for when his playing days are over. He’s beyond competitive, which is why he’s a great goaltender, and he’s the type who’s not gonna play long-term, if he doesn’t think he can compete with the best.

In all likelihood, and very likely this season, he’s going to come back and see if he can compete at the level he’s used to. If he can, fantastic. There’s a lot of people rooting for him doing just that.

If he can’t though, he’s not going to be bouncing around the league as a backup until he’s aged out of the league. He’ll LTIR out, and walk away.

Right now, they’re 2 deep in net. Maybe Boston waives Patera now that Swayman signed, and the Canucks reclaim him. That’ll at least help with some depth, but if they’re not looking, it’s almost negligent.
 

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I’m NOT the one assuming anything. Lol. That’s why they better be on top of this. I’m the one suggesting they should be “Looking” and NOT assuming.
Sure you are, you’re assuming that a tandem of Lankinen and Silovs can’t handle the pressure and that Vancouver “needs” to find someone more experienced like Lyon(lol). You say it right here:
It certainly doesn’t have to be Alex Lyon, but it needs to be someone who’s experienced the pressure Silovs and Lankinen are going to have, who they can “afford” this year.
You’re writing off Lankinen and Silovs before they’ve even been given a chance.

There’s a reason Sportsnet had an article about it today.

You can also choose to believe it or not, but Demko has been in no hurry to press the issue. He knows he’s gonna have to at some point soon, but he’s still coming to terms that his body is never going to be the same again. So it really comes down to him getting into the best physical shape he can, and then waking up one morning and saying “let’s try pushing this thing, and see how it goes.” It’s NEVER gonna get any better than it’s been for while now, and he’s still not pushed it.. Thatcher also has other options outside of hockey, already in motion, for when his playing days are over. He’s beyond competitive, which is why he’s a great goaltender, and he’s the type who’s not gonna play long-term, if he doesn’t think he can compete with the best.
Lol you talk like you know Demko but you clearly don’t. Demko is a guy that absolutely will push himself, it’s not Demko that is holding things back right now, it’s the Canucks being cautious. Just like they were cautious in the playoffs when Demko wanted to push himself and play. They’ve also changed goaltending coaches this season for the very reason that they believe some of Demko’s injuries have been caused by him and Clark pushing too much during practice and off days.

Again, stick to something you might know such as the Red Wings’ goaltending.

In all likelihood, and very likely this season, he’s going to come back and see if he can compete at the level he’s used to. If he can, fantastic. There’s a lot of people rooting for him doing just that.

If he can’t though, he’s not going to be bouncing around the league as a backup until he’s aged out of the league. He’ll LTIR out, and walk away.

Right now, they’re 2 deep in net. Maybe Boston waives Patera now that Swayman signed, and the Canucks reclaim him. That’ll at least help with some depth, but if they’re not looking, it’s almost negligent.
Thanks tips, you’ve basically added nothing here that all Vancouver fans don’t already know. “If Demko doesn’t return, they’ll have to look for a replacement!”. Groundbreaking stuff. The issue I have had all along is your silly take that the Canucks can’t manage with Lankinen/Silovs, but adding a stalwart #1 in Lyon will right the ship for them!
 
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