Claimed off Waivers: [BOS] Bruins claim G Jiri Patera off waivers from the Canucks

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Petes2424

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What are you talking about? Canucks did address their goaltending. The intent was to roll Demko/Silovs, then they picked up Lankinen as a stop gap until Demko is ready - who has been skating and taking shots, so his return shouldn't be too long from now. Canucks' goaltending is set. They can't and aren't going to take on sizeable caphits, and they certainly aren't going to pay for it.
Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.
 

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Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.
The Canucks goaltending is fine.

There's no timeline for Demko's return, but he's practicing. That's good news.

Silovs played well in the playoffs last year and has shown he's decent enough behind a solid structured defensive Tocchet system. I guess you haven't watched the Canucks in the last year or two as these aren't the Travis Green days where the strategy was to let other teams pepper Demko and hope for the best.

Lankinen is averaging 0.905 in the NHL as a backup (which is very reasonable), and is good value at his cap hit. I think it'll be a 1A/1B scenario with Silovs.

If you're being realistic, there's no way that the Canucks are going to pick up a bonafide starter at a high cap hit with Demko's imminent return (nor are there any reasonable targets in the league). If the Canucks management haven't "addressed" the issue, feel free to suggest some reasonable other things they could do. They've already addressed the concern with the Lankinen signing.
 

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Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.
Lol. What are you smoking, man?

Canucks are petrified? Do you realize that they were aware of the situation before they acquired Lankinen, and that this is the route they chose to go? Did you not see the Canucks as they were one of the best teams defensively over the last half season, including when Demko was injured? Did you not see Silovs win a playoff series against the Preds, and then push the Oilers to 7 games?

It seems like you have no idea what you're talking about, and haven't watched the Canucks play in quite a while. They are a legit good team now, and will get by. You're acting like Demko is the only reason they win games, which is ridiculous.
 

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The Canucks goaltending is fine.

There's no timeline for Demko's return, but he's practicing. That's good news.

Silovs played well in the playoffs last year and has shown he's decent enough behind a solid structured defensive Tocchet system. I guess you haven't watched the Canucks in the last year or two as these aren't the Travis Green days where the strategy was to let other teams pepper Demko and hope for the best.

Lankinen is averaging 0.905 in the NHL as a backup (which is very reasonable), and is good value at his cap hit. I think it'll be a 1A/1B scenario with Silovs.

If you're being realistic, there's no way that the Canucks are going to pick up a bonafide starter at a high cap hit with Demko's imminent return (nor are there any reasonable targets in the league). If the Canucks management haven't "addressed" the issue, feel free to suggest some reasonable other things they could do. They've already addressed the concern with the Lankinen signing.
I'll add to that, current starting tandems in the Pacific Division right now:

Dostal/Dansk
Vladar/Wolf
Skinner/Pickard
Kuemper/Rittich
Blackwood/Vitanecek
Daccord/Grubauer
Silvos/Lankinen
Hill/Samsonov

Having Demko gives Vancouver the goaltending edge in the division, but there's hardly stiff competition without him.
 

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I'll add to that, current starting tandems in the Pacific Division right now:

Dostal/Dansk
Vladar/Wolf
Skinner/Pickard
Kuemper/Rittich
Blackwood/Vitanecek
Daccord/Grubauer
Silvos/Lankinen
Hill/Samsonov

Having Demko gives Vancouver the goaltending edge in the division, but there's hardly stiff competition without him.
Those are some not very good tandems.
 

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Doesn't really change much for Vancouver. Even with Demko a huge questionmark for return timeline, you'd have to imagine they were hoping not to ever have to play Patera in the NHL anyway. I think the Lankinen signing was quite indicative of that notion, and where they're at on Patera (and Silovs with some nagging injury concerns as well). But it's still a little bit annoying to lose that extra rung of depth in net, when you do have these lingering injury issues and uncertainty at the position.

Could have to end up really leaning on Lankinen.
 

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Lol. What are you smoking, man?

Canucks are petrified? Do you realize that they were aware of the situation before they acquired Lankinen, and that this is the route they chose to go? Did you not see the Canucks as they were one of the best teams defensively over the last half season, including when Demko was injured? Did you not see Silovs win a playoff series against the Preds, and then push the Oilers to 7 games?

It seems like you have no idea what you're talking about, and haven't watched the Canucks play in quite a while. They are a legit good team now, and will get by. You're acting like Demko is the only reason they win games, which is ridiculous.
You’re completely discounting the Demko reality right now, as a lot of people are.

They believed (a month ago) Demko would have been pushing it by now, and have an actual time frame. That opinion has only changed in the last ten days or so. There is no timetable.

It’s Vancouver. How long do you think it’s gonna take for the media and fans to start questioning the goaltending, Demko’s commitment, willingness to play with the injury, etc, etc?? A 4-6 start?? 5-5? 6-4? 2-8?? 1-3?? It won’t be long.

We all know the fanbase and media have no patience.

Fans want to pretend everything’s rosy right now, and goaltending isn’t a huge question mark, but logically, with Demko being such an unknown, it absolutely is a question mark. A huge one.

Like many others, I just think they’d better stay on top of it, before the goalies that might be available today, are definitely NOT available in a week or two. Adding a Husso or Lyon would be a smart move, and it’s not breaking the bank.

Right now, they’re literally going into the season with no proven goaltender, and as good as Silovs played in specific games during his 10 game run, his save percentage was still only .898.

That’s not even gonna get them in the playoffs.
 

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You’re completely discounting the Demko reality right now, as a lot of people are.

They believed (a month ago) Demko would have been pushing it by now, and have an actual time frame. That opinion has only changed in the last ten days or so. There is no timetable.

It’s Vancouver. How long do you think it’s gonna take for the media and fans to start questioning the goaltending, Demko’s commitment, willingness to play with the injury, etc, etc?? A 4-6 start?? 5-5? 6-4? 2-8?? 1-3?? It won’t be long.

We all know the fanbase and media have no patience.

Fans want to pretend everything’s rosy right now, and goaltending isn’t a huge question mark, but logically, with Demko being such an unknown, it absolutely is a question mark. A huge one.

Like many others, I just think they’d better stay on top of it, before the goalies that might be available today, are definitely NOT available in a week or two. Adding a Husso or Lyon would be a smart move, and it’s not breaking the bank.

Right now, they’re literally going into the season with no proven goaltender, and as good as Silovs played in specific games during his 10 game run, his save percentage was still only .898.

That’s not even gonna get them in the playoffs.
What are you on about? You're delusional if you think that Husso or Lyon are going to replace Demko either. Canucks already chose their guy in Lankinen (you are literally the only person that seems to not like that move), and they are not "terrified" like you claim. If they were, they wouldn't hesitate to make a move, seeing as they have been among the busiest and most aggressive teams in the league concerning making trades. Canucks management aren't stupid, they aren't worried about the media.

You're just doing a Chicken Little impersonation, without understanding what actually made the team good last year, or how they are rolling with Lankinen/Silovs for now because they are confident that they can keep them in games. The sky is far from falling, bud
 

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Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.

So tell me, super genius, the obvious silver bullet move the Canucks could have made to better address the goaltending.
 

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Who? Bruins are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Maybe they should have signed Swayman instead of resorting to this?
 

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Who? Bruins are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Maybe they should have signed Swayman instead of resorting to this?
I can think of 64 million reasons the Bruins are currently ahead of Swayman in the negotiations.
 
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And goalie Bob will work his magic with this guy like he did with swayman and the bruins won’t skip a beat.
 

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And goalie Bob will work his magic with this guy like he did with swayman and the bruins won’t skip a beat.
Isn’t goalie Bob the guy who beat the Bruins last playoffs and won the Cup?
 

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Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.
Keep us in the loop
 

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Camp’s almost over and NOTHING has changed, like the Canucks had hoped it would a month ago.. Do you know how quick they could be out of a playoff spot this year, and needing to go on a nice, long run? One you can only go on, when you have a goaltender playing lights out?

There’s teams who are going to be much, much better in the West, and they’re going into the season with an unproven, 23 year old goalie with consistent swelling in his knee, a journeyman who still didn’t have a contract a month ago, and their prized goalie still not sure when he’s gonna be ready to test an injury that we’re not sure any goalie’s ever played through.

Yea, they’re real comfortable with that right now.

Demko still has “no idea” when he’s going to try coming back, nor how it’s going to respond when he starts pushing it. He’s hopeful but he hasn’t pressed anything yet, and he’s been skating for awhile now. It’s still a complete unknown.

So you’re putting a whole lot of confidence in a 23 year old kid who had an .898 save % in those 10 playoff games. A goalie who’s NEVER had a consistent run in an NHL season. Who’s great moments in the playoffs, we’re matched by some not so great moments, and who’s knee likes to swell up randomly.

If you think Lankinen is “addressing” their goaltending, good luck to you. There’s a reason the man didn’t have a contract in September. He’s a “stop-gap” and nothing more.

Which was fine when they thought they had a time table on Thatcher.

Fact is, nobody knows now. If Demko, who I’ve watched long before he was ever an NHL Draft choice, has ever had an issue…. it’s that he doesn’t play with injuries well. One of the problems with this current injury is, its probably never gonna be right again. Never. That means he’s gonna have to learn to play with it. He’s admitting that now.

At this point, they have to go into the season thinking, if Demko comes back, great, but who knows when that’s gonna be, and how he’s gonna look when he decides he’s ready to push it. Nobody knows how it’ll effect his game, or if it’ll even hold up when he does push it.

They can be in big trouble 12-15 games into the season, and you’re gonna depend on Lankinen and Silovs with a team that gives up the scoring chances the Canucks do?

The Canucks are petrified right now, cause they have no idea how these two goalies are gonna perform.. Nobody does.

Good to know you think they’ve “addressed” the issue though.
Your solution is Husso at $5M though? Or Lyon, who’s decent, but hardly an upgrade over Lankinen worth spending anything of any value on. “The Canucks are petrified now”, haha, ok buddy.
 

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Your solution is Husso at $5M though? Or Lyon, who’s decent, but hardly an upgrade over Lankinen worth spending anything of any value on. “The Canucks are petrified now”, haha, ok buddy.
The solution is not letting bad goaltending ruin a season, and you bet the Canucks are within weeks of pure panic if they don’t get high end goaltending out of the gate.

When they signed Lankinen, they still thought Demko would be ready pretty quickly here, and who knows…. Maybe he changes his mind, and decides to push it this weekend, and everything works out great. That’s no longer the expectation though.

I’m coming at this from the angle, people better not be blindly relying on Thatcher Demko returning, and better yet, returning to form anytime soon…. There’s a whole lot of Vancouver fans doing just that, or worse yet, just blindly assuming Silovs is gonna take this and run with it. He was an .898 goalie in that 10 game run. That doesn’t get teams in the playoffs.

Even if he does push it, which he’s been very hesitant to do since early August, we have no idea what Demko we’re gonna get. It’s a permanent injury and he’s a goalie who’s always struggled not being 100%.

It doesn’t help that Silovs has a knee swelling issue too.

Who knows, maybe Silovs and Lankinen take this, run with it, and everyone’s happy, but what’s the chances of that actually happening?

I just think they’re gonna need someone who’s shown he can play consistently in long stretches. There’s probably other possibilities as well, but I’m sure Detroit would retain on Husso and Lyon is cheap. They’re both pending UFAs, so there’s no big commitment either.

People just can’t ignore the Demko issue. I’m telling you, he’s a way bigger question mark than people know, and others wanna admit.

Lyon has just gone on two huge runs, in back to back seasons. He got Florida in the playoffs, and almost got Detroit in. If he’s available, they’d be absolutely NEGLIGENT not trying to obtain him right now. There will be teams, including the Oilers, trying to get him if Detroit moves him.. Exactly because of those two runs he’s gone on, coupled with his AAV. Neither Silovs nor Lankinen has ever played goalie in the NHL like that.

There’s teams carrying 3 goalies a lot these days. When you have a big question like the Canucks have in net right now, not to mention they just lost their current #3, it’s smart to make sure goaltending doesn’t destroy their entire season.

It’s strange any fans would be against improving their goaltending room. It’s not like these type of goalies are gonna cost a top prospect or high draft picks.

I guarantee you, if they got Lyon this weekend for a 3rd Rounder, you watch how Vancouver fans, and the Vancouver media, talk about what a great move it was.
 
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