Boone Jenner

[cheeeko]

Hey all,

I was always a big fan of Boone's when he played for the Generals, but I didn't quite expect him to be scoring in the NHL like he is. As of now I believe he has 11 goals in 22 games this season.

So what's the deal? Is he a product of someone else, or does he look like a legitimate goal scorer in the NHL?

Still early in his career, but Jackets fans must love what he's bringing to the team.

Thanks!

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[Crede777]

Nobody expects Jenner to be a 40 goal guy in the NHL. He is undoubtedly scoring at an unsustainable rate.

That said, Boone is working hard for every chance. He has a decent shot, good awareness, good skating, size, speed, and the willingness to go to the dirty areas of the ice. He has what it takes to be an impact player. We will see what happens.

 

[cheeeko]

Nobody expects Jenner to be a 40 goal guy in the NHL. He is undoubtedly scoring at an unsustainable rate.

That said, Boone is working hard for every chance. He has a decent shot, good awareness, good skating, size, speed, and the willingness to go to the dirty areas of the ice. He has what it takes to be an impact player. We will see what happens.

Thanks, let's hope he can keep it up to some extent, always like to see a hard-worker get his dues.

 

[Oscar Acosta]

Always loved the guy, was pissed when the Oilers passed over him and even more so now.

Thanks for Musil old boys club. Team of morons

 

[VanIslander]

Loved him as an NHL rookie and since.

He is clearly a banging 3rd liner type who at worst would have a long NHL career as a 4th liner and at best would be a 2nd liner 20-30 goal scorer on a great team.

 

[Josepho]

A very Tortorella type player.

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Who else see think Andrew ladd is his max upside?

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Loved him as an NHL rookie and since.

He is clearly a banging 3rd liner type who at worst would have a long NHL career as a 4th liner and at best would be a 2nd liner 20-30 goal scorer on a great team.

62 point is his first 125 Nhl games.... i think it's fair to say that he's more than a 3rd or 4th line player

 

[VanIslander]

62 point is his first 125 Nhl games.... i think it's fair to say that he's more than a 3rd or 4th line player

Of course, right now he is. My comment was clearly stated about, over his career, the best and worst case scenarios. Many physical forwards putter out offensively after a couple of years and spend the majority of their careers in a Bottom-6 role.

 

[major major]

Are Jenner and Hainsey doing a swan dance in that photo?

Of course, right now he is. My comment was clearly stated about, over his career, the best and worst case scenarios.

Naw, Boone's best case scenario is better than 20-30 goal second liner.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

He's just a tenacious worker. Most of his goals are greasy ones (tips, rebounds, tap ins). He's a great player

 

[WannabeFinn]

He's on pace for ~40 goals and his shooting percentage isn't even in the 20's. I think he'll slow down but he's so far looked like someone with real potential to pot 30 goals. I think he'll be a Scott Hartnell type scorer in that one year he could score 20 goals and the next year he could surprise you with 35+.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Hard-working grinder with a nice scoring touch. Reasonably physical as well. Chief deficiency that I see is his passing.

An ideal second line player on a good team.

 

[EspenK]

He's just a tenacious worker. Most of his goals are greasy ones (tips, rebounds, tap ins). He's a great player

He's on pace for ~40 goals and his shooting percentage isn't even in the 20's. I think he'll slow down but he's so far looked like someone with real potential to pot 30 goals. I think he'll be a Scott Hartnell type scorer in that one year he could score 20 goals and the next year he could surprise you with 35+.

Hard-working grinder with a nice scoring touch. Reasonably physical as well. Chief deficiency that I see is his passing.

An ideal second line player on a good team.

Everything you need to know right here.

 

[Light the Lamp]

What makes Boone effective in the offensive zone is his mentality to take the puck to the net...hard! He creates chaos in front of the goalie.

40 goals is not out of the question. His style of play also makes him very injury prone, so he will need to stay healthy.

 

[niflheim]

A very Tortorella type player.

You are absolutely right. He is more than "very Tortorella type player". He is like copy of Ryan Callahan. I guess Torts liked only Callahan in NYR period for his extraordinary work ethic and hockey passion, in Van he had nobody to like. But now he (happily) has two "Callahan" - Dubi and Jenner. Jenner is a little bit more "Callahan" that Dubi This guy can live 24/7 in Nationwide and breathe only by hockey. He is exceptional man ( not only player), I really respect him a lot.

 

[CBJx614]

From a few days ago. Hard not to want the guy to get the C, sooner rather than later.

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2015/11/25/1125-blue-jackets.html

But Jenner, in the final year of his entry-level contract, has rebounded by becoming a top two-way forward. He has five assists and is tied for the team lead in shots (58) and points (16). Jenner leads the team in takeaways (13) and has only five giveaways — by far the Jackets’ best ratio — and his 47 hits are tied for second to Scott Hartnell’s 52.
“I missed a lot of time and had not ever dealt with that in my career,” Jenner said. “It made me pretty hungry over the summer to get back and help this team.”
It did not go unnoticed. Jenner, despite his youth, was named a permanent alternate captain on the eve of the season opener.
“He’s wearing a letter for a reason, and it’s not just what he does off the ice,” Saad said. “You watch him play, and he leads by example, doing the little things all the time, coming to work every day, getting to the net and going into the hard areas.
“I remember playing against him even back in junior, and he’s a guy you hate to play against. But when you’re on his team, you love what he brings to the table.”
His new coach agrees. John Tortorella said he didn’t know much about Jenner when he was hired to replace Todd Richards last month.
What he has seen has been eye-opening and encouraging to a high-intensity coach who still is coaxing his team into playing hard and fast with consistency.
That’s rarely, if ever, an issue for Jenner, whose biggest fault might be his tendency to overpursue pucks.
“I’ve certainly taken notice as far as how he’s played, from the first day I got here,” Tortorella said. “He’s just a kid, and he’s willing to learn and do all the little things.
“He’s constantly working on his game. He’s very coachable, and he’s going to improve.”

 

[major major]

You can compare his expected goal production to Hartnell. Very similar in that respect. But Boone's more athletic and a better skater, more disciplined in his end and smarter with the rough stuff. Hartnell however has much better passing and vision.

 

[CBJx614]

You can compare his expected goal production to Hartnell. Very similar in that respect. But Boone's more athletic and a better skater, more disciplined in his end and smarter with the rough stuff. Hartnell however has much better passing and vision.

And most importantly, Jenner spends more time on skates than on his ass.

Hartnell has been a lot better on his feet since getting to Columbus though.

 

[NotWendell]

A very Tortorella type player.

Excellent observation!

 

[Cowumbus]

Is anyone else hoping we do what Carolina did with Faulk for both Murray and Jenner. Seemed to pay off with them. We realistically know what we have with Jenner at worst, he can only improve. Same with Murray. Maybe something like 4miilon for as many years as we can ? Just saying I don't know if the bridge deal is worth it. Thoughts?

 

[major major]

Is anyone else hoping we do what Carolina did with Faulk for both Murray and Jenner. Seemed to pay off with them. We realistically know what we have with Jenner at worst, he can only improve. Same with Murray. Maybe something like 4miilon for as many years as we can ? Just saying I don't know if the bridge deal is worth it. Thoughts?

Yes, the old $4mx7 is exactly what we should consider doing with Jenner and Murray. It obviously saves you a fortune down the road if those players become stars. See Klingberg, Josi, Faulk, etc...

At this point, however, we have so many long term contracts that it might be an issue. I'm not worried about them underperforming that salary if they're healthy, they should be good enough if not much much better than that salary, and very tradeable either way. The concern is chronic injuries. See Dipietro.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Yes, the old $4mx7 is exactly what we should consider doing with Jenner and Murray. It obviously saves you a fortune down the road if those players become stars. See Klingberg, Josi, Faulk, etc...

At this point, however, we have so many long term contracts that it might be an issue. I'm not worried about them underperforming that salary if they're healthy, they should be good enough if not much much better than that salary, and very tradeable either way. The concern is chronic injuries. See Dipietro.

Or in the case of guys like Brassard, where they just didn't continue to emerge in any meaningful way.

 

[Forepar]

Is anyone else hoping we do what Carolina did with Faulk for both Murray and Jenner. Seemed to pay off with them. We realistically know what we have with Jenner at worst, he can only improve. Same with Murray. Maybe something like 4miilon for as many years as we can ? Just saying I don't know if the bridge deal is worth it. Thoughts?

I agree with your analysis of Boone that he is a keeper without a doubt. However, I have misgivings about your proposal. His recent play is not quite as stellar as early play, which seems odd because team doing better. Is he a standout when we are going poorly because he is more consistent effort? Or is it because he gives it even more when the chips are down, but is content to ride the wave when things are going better for the team as a whole. Will he score at 25G/55 pts, or will he be more of a grinder and/or is he a W or a C? I'm good with Boone in any of those roles, but $4M for long term contract for a grinder W, if that is what he is, seems too rich (we already complain about contracts of $5.85-5.5-$4.75 for 17/71/43 as a group in similar role). The $4M might not bother me too much in a vacuum (although cap appears not to be moving up) but term could be an issue, as it affects ability to pay a 1/2 D or Joey, retaining or replacing Goloubef, etc... in the next 2-3 years.... I also don't know that Boone would get much more than $4.5-5M in the next deal even if he performs well under a bridge contract (depending upon his role, which in part is dependent on resolving Joey's role) - so would CBJ be saving that much? Second, $4M doesn't solve immediate cap space problem; Every million will count if trying to re-sign 19, and also upgrade D. CBJ might be able to clear enough space by trading Tyuts, but doing this for Boone now would also likely seal the deal on Hartsy and others. I know some would view getting an asset younger (i.e. cheaper) than Hartsy as good future cap managment, but Hartsy has been one of two most consistent players all season long, and seems to fit with Wennberg. Maybe that's ok, maybe Boone is Hartsy's long-term replacement, but it just feels too soon, that Hartsy seems to have plenty left for more than just this and next year, and is as much a part of the core as 71/17. He certainly is producing better than $4.75M salary. Boone's contract dovetails with Joey issue; if CBJ is trading Joey before next contract (I am not currently a proponent of that), then Boone as 2-3 C becomes more evident, and the future cap-space issues become less concerning (unless we get a D at $8M+ per year in return, which is not likely). But if CBJ wants to keep Joey, then they need every dollar of short-term cap flexibility that a bridge on Boone (and Murray) might help provide. As some have pointed out, in a vacuum, most of our veteran core contracts were and are fine. As a group, however, they are constricting. Thus why the handling of Hartsy, Tyutin, Joey, Boone and Murray, and of efforts to get a #1D are intertwined. IMO, need Joey situation to work itself out over the remainder of this year (at least until deadline, but probably until after season end) before making any decision on whether Boone is a bridge or long-term contract. A fully functioning Joey would be best option for CBJ, but if Joey is leaving (for whatever reason), then sign Boone to long term contract at $4M, and pray that Dubi/Wennberg/Boone can handle the #1C/2C/3C spots (interchangeable for now) adequately for a playoff contender for the next few years.


With regard to Murray, in addition to the cap issues above, I haven't seen enough of him to make long-term commitment. I like his game, he has played monster minutes the past 2 games, was a sweet wrister last night. But too small a sample size, and the bigger sample size is injury-prone. Not saying give up on him, or that he's injury prone for the rest of his career, just that I'd favor of a bridge for Murray because imo we don't know if he is a solid 3/4, a 1/2 (or a 1/2 for CBJ, but realistically a 3 compared to entire NHL), or is he an injury-prone player? Would be nice to be able say Murray/Werenski are top pairing next year or year after...but not in a position to bank on that (Werenski just not enough experience, and we may need room to sign established #1/#2 if Joey traded. Jury out on Murray (not a criticism, just too early imo), so bridge would be my play.

 

[major major]

Werenski top pair quality next year? That would be truly extraordinary. Where are folks getting the idea that this is a plausible scenario?

Or in the case of guys like Brassard, where they just didn't continue to emerge in any meaningful way.

That would be unfortunate, but that kind of stagnation is not a risk with regard to the contract. You can still trade the contract in that situation, just like Brassard was traded. It's injuries that we'd have to worry about with any long term deal.