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Bobrovsky - Worst contract in the NHL?

Not even close lol. Tavares is an all situations ppg+ center, Bob is a 10 mill backup.

It’s not though.

I love shitting on the Leafs as much as anyone but your assertion is stubborn foolishness.

Oh you misunderstand.

I am not saying he isn't good he is. I am saying it's a terrible contract cause The leafs are paying 11 million for a 2c which makes them weaker in other positions.

It's a terrible deal.
 
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Oh you misunderstand.

I am not saying he isn't good he is. I am saying it's a terrible contract cause The leafs are paying 11 million for a 2c which makes them weaker in other positions.

It's a terrible deal.
See your premise is wrong because normal 2nd line centers don't produce ppg+. Leafs have two number 1 centers and two number 1 RW. It's the same for edmonton with two 1 C s. Or Pittsburgh with Sid and Geno.
 
Is this the 4-1 goal from last night? Haven't lost my temper like that since the Weegar incident in game three against Tampa last year. Like WHAT THE ACTUAL f*** ARE YOU DOING BOB????

They should do whatever it takes to try to dump him somewhere and if it can't be done then just buy him out. He has got to go.
 
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3.62 GAA and .888sv% for 10M AAV for 3 more years after this one and a full NMC. He's getting lit up again tonight against the Flames.

You have to think this is the worst contact in the NHL?
They could always Carey Price him.
 
Oh you misunderstand.

I am not saying he isn't good he is. I am saying it's a terrible contract cause The leafs are paying 11 million for a 2c which makes them weaker in other positions.

It's a terrible deal.

How is paying a 2C (who is #1 on most teams) 10 million way worse than paying a backup 10 million? lol
 
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Not even close lol. Tavares is an all situations ppg+ center, Bob is a 10 mill backup.
Word. When I watched Devils vs Leafs I though Tavares was the best Leafs player on the ice. He’s constantly forchecking and dangerous when he has the puck.

I think the Leafs are a good team they just have played some really good teams in the first round of each playoff series.
 
Do people honestly think its Huberdeau or Tavares?

Top end players are underpaid in this league. A 2nd liner making 6 million is more of a detriment.
 
They should do whatever it takes to try to dump him somewhere and if it can't be done then just buy him out. He has got to go.
If he isn't traded or bought out next summer, the summer after that he will be. With the dead cap that's coming off the books plus the additional space from cap going up the Panthers can easily manage the penalty. So in reality he has about 1.5 years left on the deal. Which sucks but it is what it is.
 
Bob unfortunately suffers from extremely fragile confidence syndrome, the same what Jack Campbell is suffering from.
 
See your premise is wrong because normal 2nd line centers don't produce ppg+. Leafs have two number 1 centers and two number 1 RW. It's the same for edmonton with two 1 C s. Or Pittsburgh with Sid and Geno.
Normal 2cs don't have to be ppg if they make much less which means they can afford to upgrade players on the 3rd-4th lines or on D.

McDrai haven't won anything so they are a bad example and The penguins, they had something the Leafs just don't.

Edmonton and Pitts have 2 guys making tons and try to fit everyone else in. Toronto have 3 making 10.9 or more.

Toronto has given away picks to get rid of contracts cause of the cap and all because it was badly managed. Tavares was signed 2 years AFTER The Leafs had a 1C. That was idiotic.
 
Oh you misunderstand.

I am not saying he isn't good he is. I am saying it's a terrible contract cause The leafs are paying 11 million for a 2c which makes them weaker in other positions.

It's a terrible deal.

But even saying it’s a “terrible deal” doesn’t make it “the worst contract in the league” which is what you asserted prior.

He’s overpaid, but if I have to choose between Bobrobsky at 10 or Tavares for (relatively) a little more, it’s a no brainer.

If the Leafs swapped those two guys, they’d be worse.
 
I don't know, it's definitely one of the worst.

I think it only has 3 years left after this year ends?

I think we all kind of knew it would be bad and his last year in Columbus wasn't really anything to be excited about. It was probably a bad idea to sign a 31 year old goalie to a 7 year deal. And I'm being nice by saying probably.

The first two years there weren't really down years for him, it's more like last year was just an up year for him. The first two years are almost definitely what he is now. There's not many cases of goalies having multiple bad years, then bouncing back for more than one random year. Sometimes it happens with backups that fluctuate heavily, but that's about it. I guess it kind of happened with Mike Smith the last two years after two horrible years prior?

And I really don't wanna kick him while he's down, but he's one of the worst playoff goalies of all time. I can't think of any other goalie that's had as much regular success as he has and yet has been so bad in the playoffs. I think he's like a .901% in 51 career playoffs games. He wasn't that bad in the playoffs last year, but he also wasn't bad in the regular season either. But even when he had good regular seasons, he was pretty bad in the playoffs those years. Last year was only even his second career playoff series win, with the first being that sweep against Tampa in 2019. And he's made the playoffs more than he's missed them, so it's not like it's some Luongo thing when he was hardly in the playoffs the first 8 years or whatever of his career.
 
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I'm not sure why the constant Tavares comparisons with Bobrovsky.

One guy is still a REALLY GOOD player, while the other guy is a BAD player.

Just because Tavares's contract isn't great and he's overpaid a bit doesn't mean he's BAD.

Bobrovsky is a BAD player. Maybe he's mediocre at best. John Tavares is a WAYYYY better player. Come on now.
 
Is this the 4-1 goal from last night? Haven't lost my temper like that since the Weegar incident in game three against Tampa last year. Like WHAT THE ACTUAL f*** ARE YOU DOING BOB????

They should do whatever it takes to try to dump him somewhere and if it can't be done then just buy him out. He has got to go.
Pretty sure, lately all of his goals are a blur of a mind not focused for whatever reason, he was decent and good enough majority of the time last year.

His 5 hole and ability to deflate any momentum once the boys seem engaged and throw 10 shots on opponents net, can't score while opponents come down the ice (albeit 2 on 1s more recently) and you just know it's going in the net.

Rather see Knight stumble but develop than cheer for Bob anymore, have tried to give him benefit of doubt but he just seems checked out a lot since coming to Florida.
 
Oh you misunderstand.

I am not saying he isn't good he is. I am saying it's a terrible contract cause The leafs are paying 11 million for a 2c which makes them weaker in other positions.

It's a terrible deal.

Lol.

11M for a low end 1st line center or good 2nd line center vs 10M for a bad back up goalie....

The f*** are you even talking about right now....
 
Signed right as goaltending was fully transitioning to the platoon approach.

Get 2-3 goalies signed short term for modest cap hits and switch them out based on injury or who is on a hot streak.

The days of having one goalie play 60 games on a big contract are in the past. Issues with consistency, repeatability, newer goalies benefitting from a lack of information on their tendencies, and how much a goalies' numbers are influenced by system and team play mean that it's not wise to rely on one guy. It also means the days of drafting goalies in the 1st round are in the past too.

It really does feel like the era of relying on dominant goaltending is coming to an end. Rather than push all your chips in for one guy in goal, having a couple adequate keepers and riding the hot hand seems like a safer use of salary cap.
 
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It really does feel like the era of relying on dominant goaltending is coming to an end. Rather than push all your chips in for one guy in goal, having a couple adequate keepers and riding the hot hand seems like a safer use of salary cap.
I personally think this is due to the fall and drought period of elite goalies. Look back 20 years ago, you had way more elite goalies than you do in today's game. Canada as a nation, their goaltending has just imploded and are nowhere near producing talents like brodeur, luongo or price. Parents don't want their kids to become goalies because of the extra cost and the amount of mental turmoil you can go through playing that position.

Also, the league has expanded so now youre needing more candidates from a smaller pool of players.

Consistent goalies from year to year are becoming more rare to find each year. I also think the increase in pace of the game is a big reason too. Can really ware on the body.
 

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