Bobby Hull legacy thread (see admin warning post #1)

[daver]

I love that you think people are "not-healthy" for talking about a serial domestic abuser and his legacy after he died.

You should take up gymnastics with a stretch like that

The comment made by @TransplantedCaper was that the league, team and media show be responsible for presenting Hull as a "Great player, shitty person" for the sake of his victims, family members etc... lest there be a sense that this is being swept under the rug.

Why shouldn't everyone else also be "responsible" for respecting the wishes of his family by not immediately posting about how shitty a person they were. That you aren't directing your post at the family is no excuse, you know that in this day and age, anything said online is as good as being a "public" proclamation as much as press release/conference or article in the pre-internet times.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The comment made by @TransplantedCaper was that the league, team and media show be responsible for presenting Hull as a "Great player, shitty person" for the sake of his victims, family members etc... lest there be a sense that this is being swept under the rug.

Why shouldn't everyone else also be "responsible" for respecting the wishes of his family by not immediately posting about how shitty a person they were. That you aren't directing your post at the family is no excuse, you know that in this day and age, anything said online is as good as being a "public" proclamation as much as press release/conference or article in the pre-internet times.

If you can't acknowledge a clear difference between me posting about how shitty he was on this board, and directly tweeting about it to his grandson I don't know what to tell you. The intention is clearly different, those who direct their comments at them directly are attempting cause harm.

 

[Jets4Life]

You're being quite dramatic if you think I hate Bobby Hull. I've neve met the man, all I know is he was a tremendous hockey player and a shitty person.

Posting a dozen times about how horrible a human being Hull was, says otherwise.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Posting a dozen times about how horrible a human being Hull was, says otherwise.

Yeah, because some people are perfectly fine sweeping his conduct under the rug out of "decency"

Was he decent when beating the pulp out of his third wife while on vacation?

 

[Jets4Life]

Yeah, because some people are perfectly fine sweeping his conduct under the rug out of "decency"

You have a very "black and white" way of thinking.

 

[ResilientBeast]

You have a very "black and white" way of thinking. Maybe in time, you will mature enough to see the World is predominantly shades of grey, my son.

Hahaha that is the funniest possible way you could've answered that.

It's sad how many people keep accidently outing themselves in threads like this

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Posting a dozen times about how horrible a human being Hull was, says otherwise.

As opposed to you with more than a dozen posts outraged at anyone who dare mention facts of the mans life.

 

[norrisnick]

Hahaha that is the funniest possible way you could've answered that.

It's sad how many people keep accidently outing themselves in threads like this

No no. Domestic abuse is not a black and white issue. It's very gray.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

You have a very "black and white" way of thinking. Maybe in time, you will mature enough to see the World is predominantly shades of grey, my son.

The way you twist the concept and teachings of forgiveness for the purpose of judgement and condescension to those you disagree with is counter to the very things you invoke.

 

[Jets4Life]

n/m

 

[daver]

If you can't acknowledge a clear difference between me posting about how shitty he was on this board, and directly tweeting about it to his grandson I don't know what to tell you. The intention is clearly different, those who direct their comments at them directly are attempting cause harm.

The internet is now effectively the pub or the community hall or any social gathering. Anything you say online can be effectively heard by anyone.

HFBoards is not an unknown site in the hockey world. And here is a thread that the mods made a conscious choice (or perhaps were bullied into) to include commentary by anonymous people who apparently can't sleep at night unless they proclaim their distaste for spousal abuse and chastise those who do not meet their standard of distaste.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The internet is now effectively the pub or the community hall or any social gathering. Anything you say online can be effectively heard by anyone.

HFBoards is not an unknown site in the hockey world. And here is a thread that the mods made a conscious choice (or perhaps were bullied into) to include commentary by anonymous people who apparently can't sleep at night unless they proclaim their distaste for spousal abuse and chastise those who do not meet their standard of distaste.

Correct, can be heard by anyone. But again you gloss over the intention

Also huge yikes to the bolded, man quit outing yourself like that it's a bad look

 

[daver]

Correct, can be heard by anyone. But again you gloss over the intention

Also huge yikes to the bolded, man quit outing yourself like that it's a bad look

Have you not seen the mob attack anyone in this thread who dares state anything other than "yep, he was shitty person".

 

[norrisnick]

Have you not seen the mob attack anyone in this thread who dares state anything other than "yep, he was shitty person".

Attack? What, with like a shoe?

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Have you not seen the mob attack anyone in this thread who dares state anything other than "yep, he was shitty person".

You've got a unique perspective, I'll give you that.

When 95% of the room can accurately assess the situation, I suppose it's easier to call them "the mob" than it is to reassess your own viewpoint as potentially missing something.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

The internet is now effectively the pub or the community hall or any social gathering. Anything you say online can be effectively heard by anyone.

HFBoards is not an unknown site in the hockey world. And here is a thread that the mods made a conscious choice (or perhaps were bullied into) to include commentary by anonymous people who apparently can't sleep at night unless they proclaim their distaste for spousal abuse and chastise those who do not meet their standard of distaste.

As opposed to you who has been bothered for multiple days in a row because some people on an anonymous message board aren't celebrating only his hockey accomplishments in the exact way you want them to.

You aren't being attacked by anyone anymore or less, than you and Jets4life and whoever else are "attacking" those you disagree with by being critical of them lol. Spare the victim complex.

 

[daver]

Correct, can be heard by anyone. But again you gloss over the intention

What was the intention?

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Have you not seen the mob attack anyone in this thread who dares state anything other than "yep, he was shitty person".

First I would need to ask what your definition of an "attack" is; it seems like a bit of an exaggerated use of the term based on my understanding, but perhaps it means something different to you. Second, what is the threshold for "mob"; is it 3, 4 or more, or just any number greater than 2 of people with disagree or argue with you?

It is very funny to see a couple people pretend they're martyrs for their defense of a domestic abuser (the only thing people are really criticizing him for at this point).

 

[ResilientBeast]

What was the intention?

Well if I'm directly sending messages to his remaining family that is clearly different than having a discussion with randos on a message board

If I go out of my to remind his family of his behavior you'd be absolutely correct to consider me an jackass.

 

[daver]

As opposed to you who has been bothered for multiple days in a row because some people on an anonymous message board aren't celebrating only his hockey accomplishments in the exact way you want them to.

Funny, I don't recall saying anything about how people should celebrate his hockey accomplishments. Ironically, I have commented on the those doing exactly that themselves:

"It our responsibility to make sure the bad is talked about with the good!"

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Funny, I don't recall saying anything about how people should celebrate his hockey accomplishments. Ironically, I have commented on the those doing exactly that themselves:

"It our responsibility to make sure the bad is talked about with the good!"

and yet for days in a row now you are solely complaining about those mentioning the bad and framing yourself as a victim of "mob attacks" because people are arguing back with you.

 

[Jets4Life]

Funny, I don't recall saying anything about how people should celebrate his hockey accomplishments. Ironically, I have commented on the those doing exactly that themselves:

"It our responsibility to make sure the bad is talked about with the good!"

This isn't about civil discourse, silly.

If one is not crucifying Bobby Hull at the stake, they are as horrific as he was in life!

 

[Coaches Coroner]

This isn't about civil discourse, silly.

If one is not crucifying Bobby Hull at the stake, they are as horrific as he was in life!

This is funny because you've been insinuating people who haven't forgiven him as much as you have are bad people too. Always projecting.

 

[daver]

and yet for days in a row now you are solely complaining about those mentioning the bad and framing yourself as a victim of "mob attacks" because people are arguing back with you.

Congrats on your 8th post in this thread!

I could not care less if people want to mention the bad and, accordingly, those who mention the bad should not care about those who only want to mention the good.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

I could care less if people want to mention the bad

I'd correct "could care less" here, but this seems to be accurate as written. Well said.