Bob McKenzie Draft Lottery Edition Top 16 rankings

[frontsfan67]

Excuse my lack of paying attention but what did Hagans do to slowly drop in all rankings

I remember at one point he was ranked #1 and then dropped to #2 and now he’s down to 5

Disappointing year besides world juniors with the loaded US squad.

 

[Langway]

Say his name and he appears...

Beetle-nevich.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Disappointing year besides world juniors with the loaded US squad.

He’s coming for you now. Run.

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

I had no idea Hagans discussion was such a touchy subject amongst some fans here!! Sorry!!

No worries, you couldn't know. But now you've been told the cardinal rule of HF's prospects board: never mention the word "Hagens" in a 2025 draft thread if you can at all avoid it.

Now that we (especially us Canadians) have acknowledged Hagens' obvious superiority, I'll note that this list has no real surprise. O'Brien and Aitcheson rose a bit, as expected, but few changes compared to the mid-season list. Also the scouts don't seem very put off by theMcQueen/Bear injuries, though it might just be that they don't take them into account for these rankings.

 

[Peasy]

Looks like I missed some funny drama from the Hagens thread?

Hagens.

Hagens.

More so anytime a list comes out and Hagens isn't #1...

Been happening since November.

 

[Hale The Villain]

 

[Kingpin794]

Actually a bit surprised Brady Martin isn't a few spots higher. Seems like he has the intangibles that most GM's fall in love with. The Soo team he was on was not great and it didn't really slow him down.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Hagens a case of over scouted?

Little bit of that. Little bit of other guys. Little bit of he was underwhelming at times. IMO.

I think it’ll be interesting to see if he was underwhelming when he went up a level because he’s not that talented or if he’s underwhelming because he’s physically immature and very young relative to his league.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

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[Pavel Buchnevich]

Canada has 69% of the good players in this draft and everyone from the other countries we’re told is a faller and has had a bad season.

It’s totally believable.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Bland ass list, bland ass draft.

 

[VIPettersson]

looks like size is making a major comeback if these top 16 are accurate.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Disappointing year besides world juniors with the loaded US squad.

Oh okay, so when he is clearly the best of the draft it’s because his team had a loaded squad.

Seems a very fair standard to hold someone to.

 

[Larry44]

Little bit of that. Little bit of other guys. Little bit of he was underwhelming at times. IMO.

I think it’ll be interesting to see if he was underwhelming when he went up a level because he’s not that talented or if he’s underwhelming because he’s physically immature and very young relative to his league.

I read something somewhere that Hagens actually suffered from playing with Leonard and Perrault because he wasn't the same fit with them as Will Smith was the previous year, both at BC and the US WJC team. I really haven't seen Hagens enough to judge, but, as a Canadian, I will reaffirm my desire to see the Flyers pick Misa, Frondell or Hagens while acknowledging that Hagens is the best prospect. LOL!

 

[dmcccdmn]

I read something somewhere that Hagens actually suffered from playing with Leonard and Perrault because he wasn't the same fit with them as Will Smith was the previous year, both at BC and the US WJC team. I really haven't seen Hagens enough to judge, but, as a Canadian, I will reaffirm my desire to see the Flyers pick Misa, Frondell or Hagens while acknowledging that Hagens is the best prospect. LOL!

If you're not even as good as Will Smith, that's concerning.

 

[Kingpin794]

I read something somewhere that Hagens actually suffered from playing with Leonard and Perrault because he wasn't the same fit with them as Will Smith was the previous year, both at BC and the US WJC team. I really haven't seen Hagens enough to judge, but, as a Canadian, I will reaffirm my desire to see the Flyers pick Misa, Frondell or Hagens while acknowledging that Hagens is the best prospect. LOL!

Please take Misa so I don't have to watch him on the god forsaken blackhawks or pens.

 

[Larry44]

If you're not even as good as Will Smith, that's concerning.

I don't think the commentator was implying he wasn't as good as Will Smith, just that the expectation was when Smith moved up the Sharks, that Hagens would step in between the wingers and BC and the WJC team would not miss a beat, but the chemistry wasn't the same.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

If you're not even as good as Will Smith, that's concerning.

Seems like a silly thing to say. Smith was a great prospect in his draft year who was picked #4 and had a very good rookie year for the Sharks while also making the U.S. world championships team. I think Hagens is better, but to be compared to him shouldn't be a slight.

 

[Kipper933]

Will there be no surprises in the top ~6-8 picks this year?

Sure, there could be, but if they are a surprise then they won't be talked about in those spots until the draft.


All the talk is about Hagens, but how is Hensler still rated so highly?

 

[Sturminator]

lol my damn phone autocorrects it to HagAns for some reason. It’s always a pet peeve of mine when people spell names wrong and here I am doing it too haha

See that...that's Canada's fault.

 

[dmcccdmn]

I don't think the commentator was implying he wasn't as good as Will Smith, just that the expectation was when Smith moved up the Sharks, that Hagens would step in between the wingers and BC and the WJC team would not miss a beat, but the chemistry wasn't the same.

Chemistry isn't a convincing excuse. Sure, it might be a thing when you first played together in the beginning. But you have all season long to figure out everyone's tendencies. Instead, his play has actually tailed off. Hagens is the most puzzling prospect in recent year within the span of 1 season. Remember at the beginning of the season, he was thought to be consensus 1OA?

 

[gary559]

I'm gonna make a prediction, Eklund is this years Sennecke and goes in the top 5.

 

[BHawk21]

Did Hagens play in-between Leonard and Perreault this year?

 

[frontsfan67]

Oh okay, so when he is clearly the best of the draft it’s because his team had a loaded squad.

Seems a very fair standard to hold someone to.

Pavel. It’s too early to be drinking like this.

Best of the draft class? Are you insane? Maybe a year or two ago. Definitely not for this season.

 

[frontsfan67]

He’s coming for you now. Run.

LOL