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Lmao literally anyone who's been paying attention, including non-HF posters, all say our goaltending has been sub-par, but you come here to cry about us pointing to it?

Get tf out of here.

Actually living in Alberta and know 100 of Oilers and Flames fans they all point out how Ottawa is the worst defensive Team. Not one ever mentioned about the goalies. Any educated person would know how terrible our Teams defensive coverage is and leads the league in giving out the most grade A scoring chances

What is your take on the 2nd goal eh? Actually I don't care about an uneducated opinion anyway
 

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two things can be true. Forsberg has no business giving up that rebound. Brannstrom needs to tie up the stick

I want to see Kleven get games to finish out the year, see if he's ready for the third pair.
Well technically yeah every player could have done something to prevent that goal. The shot could have been blocked too.

I don’t think kleven is. Maybe with a partner who’s way better and can help him
 

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The blues didnt bother to mark a single man in the defensive zone in that period. But I bet this is viewed as a “strong road period” by them.
This is what I don't get, people talk about how our goalies numbers are the result of our defensive play, but we aren't even the close to the worst defensive team in this league. SJ, Chi, StL, and Clb are in another league of bad defensively imo, though I'll admit we have had our games where we just give up and look just as bad
 
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Wish they’d just bring Sogaard up at this point. Don’t even care if he plays badly, just get him some more experience in the hopes he can help us next year when Korpisalo is losing us games.

Can’t imagine Forsberg playing is doing anything to help his trade value either.
 
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Actually living in Alberta and know 100 of Oilers and Flames fans they all point out how Ottawa is the worst defensive Team. Not one ever mentioned about the goalies. Any educated person would know how terrible our Teams defensive coverage is and leads the league in giving out the most grade A scoring chances

What is your take on the 2nd goal eh? Actually I don't care about an uneducated opinion anyway
No body blamed him for the second one. Of course a save would be nice since the other goalie is making saves off of massive blues defensive breakdowns.

One side admits when the team breaks down. The other side can never admit our goalies are absolute shit.

Also from what I can see. And please check yourself because I may get these acronyms wrong… looks like we are kinda middle of the pack in high danger shots against. So if I’m reading that right you’re just making something up. If I’m not then I apologize
 
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Well technically yeah every player could have done something to prevent that goal. The shot could have been blocked too.

I don’t think kleven is. Maybe with a partner who’s way better and can help him
Sure, but Brannstrom is there, and tying up his stick is pretty much his only job in that situation. He blew it. Forsberg blew it. Both were bad

As for Kleven, he's been really good in Bellevill from what I've seen (which isn't much). I though he looked close to finish last season, but didn't seem to have it early this year.
 

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Actually living in Alberta and know 100 of Oilers and Flames fans they all point out how Ottawa is the worst defensive Team. Not one ever mentioned about the goalies. Any educated person would know how terrible our Teams defensive coverage is and leads the league in giving out the most grade A scoring chances

What is your take on the 2nd goal eh? Actually I don't care about an uneducated opinion anyway
Actually I'd think those are lazy, uneducated opinions from people that just don't know because they don't watch.

We give up a lot of goals so we must be bad defensively. Easy to think that. I'm not saying we're spectacular or anything, but with average goaltending we'd be pretty average defensively
 

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Sure, but Brannstrom is there, and tying up his stick is pretty much his only job in that situation. He blew it. Forsberg blew it. Both were bad

As for Kleven, he's been really good in Bellevill from what I've seen (which isn't much). I though he looked close to finish last season, but didn't seem to have it early this year.
So you wouldn’t trade mark stone for brannstrom and a second?
 

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Actually living in Alberta and know 100 of Oilers and Flames fans they all point out how Ottawa is the worst defensive Team. Not one ever mentioned about the goalies. Any educated person would know how terrible our Teams defensive coverage is and leads the league in giving out the most grade A scoring chances

What is your take on the 2nd goal eh? Actually I don't care about an uneducated opinion anyway

No one has ever said we weren't bad defensively, but as opposed to you, we actually watch the f***ing games and can see that even when we're playing solid defense any high scoring chance goes in. Hell, I defended the goalies for months while we were playing really shitty D but that excuse can only go so far.

And who cares what Alberta fans think? I'm talking about the analysts both on the radio and on TV who all point to our two starters being the worst duo in the league.

Also, LOL at your last point. Not even going to bother answering your emo BS.
 

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This is what I don't get, people talk about how our goalies numbers are the result of our defensive play, but we aren't even the close to the worst defensive team in this league. SJ, Chi, StL, and Clb are in another league of bad defensively imo, though I'll admit we have had our games where we just give up and look just as bad
Goaltending skews perception harder than AnyThiNg else. Except maybe shooting %
 

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lol should I even turn this shit on?
Yes

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Every single one of those frigging replays they just showed, there a wide-open gaping top of the net, but Sens shooters refuse to raise the puck. Why? What the hell is wrong with getting a shot up over a sprawling goaling. The guy is out there rolling around on the ice doing Hasekian snow angles, and yet Sens constantly hit pads and crest. How about shooters try the top of the net like every other team seems to capitalize on against Sens!
 
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No body blamed him for the second one. Of course a save would be nice since the other goalie is making saves off of massive blues defensive breakdowns.

One side admits when the team breaks down. The other side can never admit our goalies are absolute shit.

Exactly. Second goal isn't on him and we didn't try and argue against it. He just doesn't care what actually happens, he needs to be an edgy contrarian. Like, the guy who railed against Tkachuk even though he's been our best player thinks we're the ones who have uneducated opinions lmao.
 

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No one has ever said we weren't bad defensively, but as opposed to you, we actually watch the f***ing games and can see that even when we're playing solid defense any high scoring chance goes in. Hell, I defended the goalies for months while we were playing really shitty D but that excuse can only go so far.

And who cares what Alberta fans think? I'm talking about the analysts both on the radio and on TV who all point to our two starters being the worst duo in the league.

Also, LOL at your last point. Not even going to bother answering your emo BS.
Yup... I'm in the same boat. I defended the Korpisalo signing too for far too long as well. These goalies are inconsistent and aren't nhl caliber.
 

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I am curious to see what Staios does this summer he’s giving me the vibe that he just wont do much

Based on absolutely nothing
 
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Actually I'd think those are lazy, uneducated opinions from people that just don't know because they don't watch.

We give up a lot of goals so we must be bad defensively. Easy to think that. I'm not saying we're spectacular or anything, but with average goaltending we'd be pretty average defensively

We give up a lot of good scoring chances that is why we are bad defensively. We are not average defensively, we are bad. The goaltending is average at worst. Some games the goalies so come up big and stop a lot of grade A scoring chances and other games they don't. If you expect goalies to keep making highlight saves, then that is not a receipe for success. There is a distinct reason why 2 goalies who have shown in the past that they can be good are both struggling with their numbers

First clean up your defensive mess as a Team, the goalies will fall in line too, and their numbers will reflect the Teams defensive performance, as well
 

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We give up a lot of good scoring chances that is why we are bad defensively. We are not average defensively, we are bad. The goaltending is average at worst. Some games the goalies so come up big and stop a lot of grade A scoring chances and other games they don't. If you expect goalies to keep making highlight saves, then that is not a receipe for success. There is a distinct reason why 2 goalies who have shown in the past that they can be good are both struggling with their numbers

First clean up your defensive mess as a Team, the goalies will fall in line too, and their numbers will reflect the Teams defensive performance, as well
Wrong answer
 

Burrowsaurus

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We give up a lot of good scoring chances that is why we are bad defensively. We are not average defensively, we are bad. The goaltending is average at worst. Some games the goalies so come up big and stop a lot of grade A scoring chances and other games they don't. If you expect goalies to keep making highlight saves, then that is not a receipe for success. There is a distinct reason why 2 goalies who have shown in the past that they can be good are both struggling with their numbers

First clean up your defensive mess as a Team, the goalies will fall in line too, and their numbers will reflect the Teams defensive performance, as well
We cleaned up our d game for a long stretch.Goalie save percentage was still
Below .900.
 

Rodzilla

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Yeah both .890 is not average, they suck.

So does our D

When you see Chabot show the example out there well
 

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No one has ever said we weren't bad defensively, but as opposed to you, we actually watch the f***ing games and can see that even when we're playing solid defense any high scoring chance goes in. Hell, I defended the goalies for months while we were playing really shitty D but that excuse can only go so far.

And who cares what Alberta fans think? I'm talking about the analysts both on the radio and on TV who all point to our two starters being the worst duo in the league.

Also, LOL at your last point. Not even going to bother answering your emo BS.


Good riddance!

I don't like getting bothered by your childish tantrums on my every single post

Wrong answer

Your opinion

We cleaned up our d game for a long stretch.Goalie save percentage was still
Below .900.

Good point but I think I have an answer to that
 

JD1

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We give up a lot of good scoring chances that is why we are bad defensively. We are not average defensively, we are bad. The goaltending is average at worst. Some games the goalies so come up big and stop a lot of grade A scoring chances and other games they don't. If you expect goalies to keep making highlight saves, then that is not a receipe for success. There is a distinct reason why 2 goalies who have shown in the past that they can be good are both struggling with their numbers

First clean up your defensive mess as a Team, the goalies will fall in line too, and their numbers will reflect the Teams defensive performance, as well
Just looking at the standard advanced stats that are frequently quoted here

Sa/60
xGA/60
SCA/60
HDCA/60

All situations, every one of those stats we're average or quite a bit better than average which was my point.
 

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