Vladys Gumption
Colt55
Elite prospects has him listed as playing at least two years of AAA.was Maroon not an AAA Blues?
I’m sure I missed multiple other former and current players. Come to think of it, Joe Vitale did too.
Elite prospects has him listed as playing at least two years of AAA.was Maroon not an AAA Blues?
Bokk has 7 points in 15 games in the top swe league
Not great, considering three of those came in one game. I expected a lot more out of him so far.
It's hard to judge, and it doesn't actually mean anything because they could be better on either ice surface and we'd never know until they try it. Some comparables and their draft +1 season in Sweden:Honestly I never know how to evaluate how well a prospect is doing overseas. Some guys have great years with mediocre at best statistics. Especially in the SHL and KHL.
TOI is probably a better indicator for a lot of the EU prospects. Points certainly don't tell the whole story, as it could seem like a player is struggling, but in reality they're only getting 6 minutes of ice time per game.
TOI is probably a better indicator for a lot of the EU prospects. Points certainly don't tell the whole story, as it could seem like a player is struggling, but in reality they're only getting 6 minutes of ice time per game.
I agree, but unfortunately those stats are hard to come by. Sometimes the best you can do is read between the lines.
I trust your opinion and always enjoy reading your posts.
I'm curious, when you have a minute, to hear your thoughts on what we have in Kostin. Do you think he has realistic top 6 potential in the NHL or is he a true dark horse at this point?
I remember a poster arguing adamantly last year that Kostin would make the NHL roster and that he was nearly ready. You don’t hear statements like that any more.I really want to like Kostin, but at this point it’s hard to get too excited. His production really hasn’t been that bad, and if anything it’s a little underrated - especially down the stretch last year when he really seemed to go on a run. But he’s still figuring things out, and I’m not seeing a lot of progress from him. He’s pushing too hard, instead of just playing hockey.
I will say, if you look at other Russian guys with similar pedigrees and similar sizes, like Guryanov, Svechnikov or Buchnevich, it took them several years to figure things out too. At this point, I wouldn’t call Kostin close, but I think there’s probably still a glimmer of hope to hold onto there. Sometimes as guys get older and they start playing against guys 2-3 years older than them as opposed to 5-6, their games come out a little stronger. There’s still cause to cut him some slack and be patient, but obviously you’d like to see a former #1-ranked player take control a little more authoritatively. We’ll see!
I remember posters saying Kyrou was ready to produce in NHL. So easy to be over exuberant with prospects. Kostin and Kyrou both still have excellent potential, but wouldn't expect to see much out of either this year. If anything, Kostin may be closer.I remember a poster arguing adamantly last year that Kostin would make the NHL roster and that he was nearly ready. You don’t hear statements like that any more.
I remember a poster arguing adamantly last year that Kostin would make the NHL roster and that he was nearly ready. You don’t hear statements like that any more.
I really want to like Kostin, but at this point it’s hard to get too excited. His production really hasn’t been that bad, and if anything it’s a little underrated - especially down the stretch last year when he really seemed to go on a run. But he’s still figuring things out, and I’m not seeing a lot of progress from him. He’s pushing too hard, instead of just playing hockey.
I will say, if you look at other Russian guys with similar pedigrees and similar sizes, like Guryanov, Svechnikov or Buchnevich, it took them several years to figure things out too. At this point, I wouldn’t call Kostin close, but I think there’s probably still a glimmer of hope to hold onto there. Sometimes as guys get older and they start playing against guys 2-3 years older than them as opposed to 5-6, their games come out a little stronger. There’s still cause to cut him some slack and be patient, but obviously you’d like to see a former #1-ranked player take control a little more authoritatively. We’ll see!
I really want to like Kostin, but at this point it’s hard to get too excited. His production really hasn’t been that bad, and if anything it’s a little underrated - especially down the stretch last year when he really seemed to go on a run. But he’s still figuring things out, and I’m not seeing a lot of progress from him. He’s pushing too hard, instead of just playing hockey.
I will say, if you look at other Russian guys with similar pedigrees and similar sizes, like Guryanov, Svechnikov or Buchnevich, it took them several years to figure things out too. At this point, I wouldn’t call Kostin close, but I think there’s probably still a glimmer of hope to hold onto there. Sometimes as guys get older and they start playing against guys 2-3 years older than them as opposed to 5-6, their games come out a little stronger. There’s still cause to cut him some slack and be patient, but obviously you’d like to see a former #1-ranked player take control a little more authoritatively. We’ll see!
Yeah and sometimes I question if the AHL is the right spot for a 18-19 year old to develop. Would he get more out of playing 20+ minutes in all situations in the CHL or 10-12 minutes in the AHL with little special teams time. How can we expect a player to develop into a scorer if he isn't getting a lot of chances to score? It's moot because Kostin kind of forced the Blues hand but I'm not sure it was the best long term move.I'm not too high on Kostin either, but you do have to remember he's still 19 playing in the AHL. He's still one of, if not the, youngest players in that league and he moved across the world to do it. There's time and room for him still.
Yeah and sometimes I question if the AHL is the right spot for a 18-19 year old to develop. Would he get more out of playing 20+ minutes in all situations in the CHL or 10-12 minutes in the AHL with little special teams time. How can we expect a player to develop into a scorer if he isn't getting a lot of chances to score? It's moot because Kostin kind of forced the Blues hand but I'm not sure it was the best long term move.
I think he was a little different because he was already built like a man at a muscular 225lbs (I think) and took boxing lessons. He also had the dispute with his team giving him no ice time and wanted to come to NA to be a pro.
After sitting out a year to injury, going to Kootenay was still probably the best option for him. Go to the WHL and dominate for a season, get back up to speed, and then hit the pros. He didn’t want to do that, and in the end it will probably end up being fine, but it looks like the development curve took a bit of a hit as a result. The AHL is a tough league to learn in.
Isn't there something where the first year doesn't count when they are 18 in the AHL? Is it for arb eligibility? I forget, but there is a goofy rule there.Yeah, it was his choice. He's going to be off his ELC faster this way, which was probably the main factor.