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Kyle Quincey was traded to replace leaving Brad Stuart. Shouldn't this be clear for everybody already?
Wings traded for a PP defenseman to replace their hard-hitting, hardnosed PK guy?
Kyle Quincey was traded to replace leaving Brad Stuart. Shouldn't this be clear for everybody already?
Wings traded for a PP defenseman to replace their hard-hitting, hardnosed PK guy?
Wings traded for a PP defenseman to replace their hard-hitting, hardnosed PK guy?
Suter really looks like a great Norris-caliber guy. Front-runner to win the Norris and biggest thing for Wild's great season compared to last season. Too bad his girlfriend said no for Detroit.
How has this Sammy-signing prevented our prospects from development? He has played total of 51 minutes and all his lost minutes have gone to a prospect.
Kyle Quincey was traded to replace leaving Brad Stuart. Shouldn't this be clear for everybody already?
Nope. He was projected to be a defensive defenceman...
AND
...look how we have used him. As a PK defenceman, off from the power-play.
Just like Brad Stuart was used.
Quincey has been converted from his "wrong" role (in other organizations) back what he was predicted to be as a Red Wings prospect.
We had Lidstrom and we were playing for the President's trophy. Nobody predicted everyone would get injured right afterwords. Nobody. Now we don't have Lidstrom. This team isn't in the shape that you dump assets into winning now. But in any case, bringing up Quincey is hypocritical. Because if it's bad asset management to dump a first for Quincey (which then at the time would have been useless anyways), then certainly it follows that a 1st for Bouwmeester at this point in time is also bad asset management.
I just don't see how you justify giving up a first for Q last year, but then balk at getting JBo for a similar package, even if you have to part with a slightly better prospect.
Giving up a 1st at last year was giving up a 29th pick in a bad draft (regarding to 1st round talents) with 2nd best record in the league.
Giving up a 1st at this year is giving up a ~15th pick in a deeper draft and this current team could also collapse to an even higher pick.
Those 1sts just have a totally different value.
so we gave up a first rd pick for a bottom pairing PK specialist dman only?
Then you would've been leading the charge to fire Holland for trading the 1st if/when we missed the playoffs.
There are no sure things at 15-to-20 in the draft.
Only way this team misses the playoffs is if Datsyuk or Zetterberg are injured for a lengthy stretch
Giving up a 1st at last year was giving up a 29th pick in a bad draft (regarding to 1st round talents) with 2nd best record in the league.
Giving up a 1st at this year is giving up a ~15th pick in a deeper draft and this current team could also collapse to an even higher pick.
Those 1sts just have a totally different value.
Giving up a 1st at last year was giving up a 29th pick in a bad draft (regarding to 1st round talents) with 2nd best record in the league.
Giving up a 1st at this year is giving up a ~15th pick in a deeper draft and this current team could also collapse to an even higher pick.
Those 1sts just have a totally different value.
yes I agree we were 2nd overall at the feb trade deadline but i dont remember any hockey analyst stating they believed detroit would be in the cup finals at that time and thus that 29th overall pick was clearly going to be lower
furthermore knowing full well how old lidstrom was at the time, wouldnt the pick have been better served holding onto it to draft a dman or use it in a deal to acquire a proper top 3 dman?
if we believed we were a stanely cup finalist team why did we acquire quincey? was he what we needed to go from losing in the cup finals to winning? is quincey a playoff rental type guy teams clamour over like an iggy or morrow or clowe?
or did we acquire quincey because we knew we would be losing lidstrom soon and thus wanted to start mitigating his loss, if so, then wow what a terrible way to go about it.
I'm not sure where the Wings will end up yet, but... that is the wrong way to frame the question.
Here's the way I would frame it. 1) What are the odds that you will draft someone like JBo in this year's draft at that position? (2) When will that player be ready?
We have a 29 yr old defenseman playing peak hockey for years now who is the same age as a guy we invested 3-4 yrs to develop just to this point.
JBo could be a player that's with the Wings for another ten years. That IS worth a first round pick because you're not going to find another guy like that easily on the UFA market, or in your draft position.
More from LeBrun:
Huh. Wonder where that bolded line came from.
People can stop hyperventilating about giving up a first in this draft. Calgary accepted a 2014 first rounder. So again: Q is worth a first but Bouwmeester is not?
Isn't the 1st conditional on whether St Louis makes the playoffs or not? 2013 if they are in, 2014 if they are out? I thought that is what I read over on the blues board.
Isn't the 1st conditional on whether St Louis makes the playoffs or not? 2013 if they are in, 2014 if they are out? I thought that is what I read over on the blues board.
yes I agree we were 2nd overall at the feb trade deadline but i dont remember any hockey analyst stating they believed detroit would be in the cup finals at that time and thus that 29th overall pick was clearly going to be lower
furthermore knowing full well how old lidstrom was at the time, wouldnt the pick have been better served holding onto it to draft a dman or use it in a deal to acquire a proper top 3 dman?
if we believed we were a stanely cup finalist team why did we acquire quincey? was he what we needed to go from losing in the cup finals to winning? is quincey a playoff rental type guy teams clamour over like an iggy or morrow or clowe?
or did we acquire quincey because we knew we would be losing lidstrom soon and thus wanted to start mitigating his loss, if so, then wow what a terrible way to go about it.
Isn't the 1st conditional on whether St Louis makes the playoffs or not? 2013 if they are in, 2014 if they are out? I thought that is what I read over on the blues board.
Roy now to Vancouver for pick/ prospect
another good forward the wings just missed on again.
holland