And take 2 players out of any team's top 6 and see if it doesn't have a effect on the team's play. Some here need to take a deep breath and relax man .
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His job is to assemble a good team. Clearly he did that
It's up to the coaches and players to execute in thr playoffs
Why don't you step back from the ledge for a second and see how things play out?
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I guess it is safe to assume that this is your phone wallpaper?Next thing we are going to be granting him prima nocta rights
Next thing we are going to be granting him prima nocta rights
At least we didn't have Jim Benning running the helm. I could only imagine the state of this team.
I agree when you look at it from the POV of the entire tenure. GMs last 5ish years, he's 3x that. Id pose the question for someone that knows: how many gm's in history get 10+ years with a team without coming close to a Cup or a SCF appearances?
However, the Jets as of late have done real well and that will hold more weight I think. If the Jets weren't going to move from Chevy years ago I doubt they will be even thinking about given the team now.
Ironically, the fact that the Jets are not a FA destination actually helped this team turn it around with the PLD trade. If PLD wanted to stay, the team would have re-signed him for sure imo. Also, can't gloss over this either getting Bowness in, regardless if it was last resort after Trotz or not, and rebuilding the team culture etc (can argue it was broken under his watch).
Poile got 20 years with the Preds before they made a finals appearance, then he got another 6 years after that. Now Trotz is completely butchering every move with that team. Grass isn't always greener.
Very few get that long of a leash. Wilson was another with the sharks 19 seasons and 1 Cup finals. McPhee got 17 years with the Caps and no Cups.
Seems it's more of a trend with smaller-mid market teams nowadays to keep GMs longer. I'd imagine if Chevy hadn't navigated a lot of those trades so well he would have been out a lot sooner.
OK so 3 in history? Very few get that long of a leash is essentially what I was getting at.
Off quick thought I'd say for Wilson probably had the best resume of that group.
Perhaps on your second point. The Jets are in the midst of their best stretch of years and the vibes/culture is in a better place. No one is thinking of firing him now.
Yeah he's likely safe until the downturn that will likely follow Scheif and Helle's decline in ability.
I also wonder if Winnipeg being an unpopular destination helped the jets sell high on him, with other teams assuming that inconsistent play was due to him just naturally wanting out. Dubois being middling while playing in LA made it a lot more obvious that he had something else going effort/psychology wise.
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Interesting fact:
In the past 100 years, only 40 GMs have won the cup
Does that make every other GM a failure?
I think at the end of the day, TNSE's primary goal is to build a skilled and entertaining team that can win games on a nightly basis in order to keep the fans engaged
Of course they'd love to win a cup, but there is so much more that goes into it than just roster construction
Ultimately... if, as a fan, your only acceptable outcome every year is if your team makes the finals or wins the cup, then ultimately you're responsible for your own disappointment
In the past 100 years, only 40 GMs have won the cup
Does that make every other GM a failure?
I think at the end of the day, TNSE's primary goal is to build a skilled and entertaining team that can win games on a nightly basis in order to keep the fans engaged
Of course they'd love to win a cup, but there is so much more that goes into it than just roster construction
Ultimately... if, as a fan, your only acceptable outcome every year is if your team makes the finals or wins the cup, then ultimately you're responsible for your own disappointment
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I think a prime example of what Chevy has to deal with is that they were heavily in on Nelson but he preferred to go to Colorado, and had the trade protection to make it happen.
Chevy has this job for as long as he wants, it seems. I can see him leaving once the team starts declining into missing the playoffs regularly but not when they're comfortably making the playoffs each year.
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So I see the Jets are not the only ones who don't get the call on interference but it was funny this goal the Oilers scored on was because an interference penalty on the Kings.
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Stanley has been as bad as Schenn, actually worse in the first game. They're both too slow and penalty prone
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Was he supposed to get out of his way?
Holding maybe, but not interference. He's have to actually step in front of him for it to be interference
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look around the league and look at how many teams are searching for help at 2c, like colorado a much more preferred destination has also been searching for a 2c since kadri left...
I'm not a big fan of people who use strawmen, diversion, and manipulation of words to debate, so I'll just leave it at that.
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Yup a perennial contender in the Canes can't find one either.
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