PerryTurnbullfan
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Pekarcik with 2 goals in the first!
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Prospect Info: Blues 2024-2025 Prospect Thread
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PerryTurnbullfan
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Hattie! Pekarcik! Bill Zonnon is not a bad player at all. Desnoyers…3 assists. Want him in the note!
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Hutson
Not terribly surprising if he just got there, they probably want him to log a few practices with the team first
Robb_K
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Great news!!! He'll have the rest of this season to get used to The North American game.
PocketNines
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Pekarcik finished off the hatty. Will try to watch some Stancl later.
There's going to be a lot of near term Stancl watching on mute with a screen only visible by me, similar to the way Robin Williams is trying to watch the game during dinner in The Best of Times (1986).
There's going to be a lot of near term Stancl watching on mute with a screen only visible by me, similar to the way Robin Williams is trying to watch the game during dinner in The Best of Times (1986).
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PocketNines
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Stancl scores
PocketNines
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Stancl had one sweet break in with about 4 min to go in the 3d period, went through three players up the middle with the puck and in alone, didn't finish. He was out there a ton in the wide open third period, PK, PP. Vancouver was up 3-0 and 4-1 (Stancl's goal put them on the board) but Kelowna closed to 5-4 in a vigorous third before losing 6-4.
His -4 is super misleading. In the third he was -3 but one was an ENG, one came one second ofter a PP ended, another came just after a PP ended and they were trapped on the ice.
His -4 is super misleading. In the third he was -3 but one was an ENG, one came one second ofter a PP ended, another came just after a PP ended and they were trapped on the ice.
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What´s the projection/potential for Štancl in NHL?
Wheeler’s post-WJC comments with Rutherford are up at the Athletic. Some interesting stuff:
How many of these prospects are legit first- and second-line guys versus third- or fourth-line guys? — Paul V.
I’ve gotten a lot of questions in the lead-up to this year’s prospect pool rankings asking why the Blues with all their representation at the World Juniors haven’t been ranked higher in similar projections in previous years or at other outlets. Part of that answer can be answered in the answer to this question. The Blues have a lot of quantity of quality prospects, it’s true. Without spoiling their upcoming spot in this year’s countdown, they’ve got a good pool: Jimmy Snuggerud, Dvorsky, Jiricek, Stenberg, Lindstein, Zack Bolduc before them. All top players in their age groups coming up, or close. All have legitimate NHL potential. But they aren’t the top top, and it’s those players who truly change the shape and outlook of a franchise.
If all five of those guys reach their potential, are the Blues going to benefit? Absolutely. Especially if they can make an impact on their entry-level deals or early years of their RFA rights and the Blues can spend well around them. But are they going to be playing on a first line of a Stanley Cup contender, or be a top 1-3 D on one? I think Snuggerud and Dvorsky are more likely the fourth or fifth forward on a team like that (which is still a highly paid, important piece) if they hit. I think Lindstein’s probably a 4-5. Jiricek might have a wider range of outcomes, for good and for bad. But the reason you don’t see them with a top-five ranked pool, for example, is because those teams have a player or two who is at the very top of the prospect pyramid, so to speak, and then they have a handful of other really quality pieces as well.
How much weight does a tournament like this carry in prospect evaluations? How many tiers in your rankings can a handful of games with strong production bump up a guy like Stancl? — Matt M.
I think Stancl is the most positive story coming out of the World Juniors if you’re a Blues fan. The other eight played about in line with how you should have expected them to play. Stancl is the one who exceeded expectations. This is a kid who had 14 points in 28 games at the J20 level in Sweden as an 18-year-old last year. That’s a very poor post-draft season, even for a fourth-round pick. For him to go from that to leading the World Juniors in goals and making big plays in big moments against the best young players in the world is a huge deal. He’s had a respectable season in Kelowna, as well and looked more comfortable with the puck on his stick, than I can remember. Just so you have a picture: I wasn’t sure, coming into the tournament, whether he’d be on my Blues prospect pool ranking. He was sort of in the mix for spots 13-15. I’m not sure if he’s going to play in the NHL, so I don’t think anyone should get carried away, but he’s going to be on my list now!
Who is the most underrated Blues prospect? Most overrated? — Scott F.
Underrated: Lukas Fischer. I think he has the tools, makeup, disposition and work ethic to become a bottom-pairing NHL defenseman. The stats don’t pop, but he’s a strong kid with a strong, wide base to his stride who can play big minutes and looks like how NHL teams want their D to look these days.
Overrated: I’m not going to call a player who has missed the time that Jiricek has missed overrated because I still think he’s working his way back and has plenty of quality to his game/makeup/projection, but I will say that before any of the injuries, before he blew out his knee at last year’s World Juniors, I felt Jiricek was being overrated based on his performance at the Hlinka.
How many of these prospects are legit first- and second-line guys versus third- or fourth-line guys? — Paul V.
I’ve gotten a lot of questions in the lead-up to this year’s prospect pool rankings asking why the Blues with all their representation at the World Juniors haven’t been ranked higher in similar projections in previous years or at other outlets. Part of that answer can be answered in the answer to this question. The Blues have a lot of quantity of quality prospects, it’s true. Without spoiling their upcoming spot in this year’s countdown, they’ve got a good pool: Jimmy Snuggerud, Dvorsky, Jiricek, Stenberg, Lindstein, Zack Bolduc before them. All top players in their age groups coming up, or close. All have legitimate NHL potential. But they aren’t the top top, and it’s those players who truly change the shape and outlook of a franchise.
If all five of those guys reach their potential, are the Blues going to benefit? Absolutely. Especially if they can make an impact on their entry-level deals or early years of their RFA rights and the Blues can spend well around them. But are they going to be playing on a first line of a Stanley Cup contender, or be a top 1-3 D on one? I think Snuggerud and Dvorsky are more likely the fourth or fifth forward on a team like that (which is still a highly paid, important piece) if they hit. I think Lindstein’s probably a 4-5. Jiricek might have a wider range of outcomes, for good and for bad. But the reason you don’t see them with a top-five ranked pool, for example, is because those teams have a player or two who is at the very top of the prospect pyramid, so to speak, and then they have a handful of other really quality pieces as well.
How much weight does a tournament like this carry in prospect evaluations? How many tiers in your rankings can a handful of games with strong production bump up a guy like Stancl? — Matt M.
I think Stancl is the most positive story coming out of the World Juniors if you’re a Blues fan. The other eight played about in line with how you should have expected them to play. Stancl is the one who exceeded expectations. This is a kid who had 14 points in 28 games at the J20 level in Sweden as an 18-year-old last year. That’s a very poor post-draft season, even for a fourth-round pick. For him to go from that to leading the World Juniors in goals and making big plays in big moments against the best young players in the world is a huge deal. He’s had a respectable season in Kelowna, as well and looked more comfortable with the puck on his stick, than I can remember. Just so you have a picture: I wasn’t sure, coming into the tournament, whether he’d be on my Blues prospect pool ranking. He was sort of in the mix for spots 13-15. I’m not sure if he’s going to play in the NHL, so I don’t think anyone should get carried away, but he’s going to be on my list now!
Who is the most underrated Blues prospect? Most overrated? — Scott F.
Underrated: Lukas Fischer. I think he has the tools, makeup, disposition and work ethic to become a bottom-pairing NHL defenseman. The stats don’t pop, but he’s a strong kid with a strong, wide base to his stride who can play big minutes and looks like how NHL teams want their D to look these days.
Overrated: I’m not going to call a player who has missed the time that Jiricek has missed overrated because I still think he’s working his way back and has plenty of quality to his game/makeup/projection, but I will say that before any of the injuries, before he blew out his knee at last year’s World Juniors, I felt Jiricek was being overrated based on his performance at the Hlinka.
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Lindstein, Juricek & Lukas Fisher as the top-rated d-prospects still leaves a lot to be desired. Seems like with the Blues best guy being a 4/5 at the NHL level we’re going to need Broberg to level up again, Parayko to age like a fine wine, Steen to acquire another top-young defender and somebody in the system (Koromyslov?) to really pop.
How was Parayko rated couple of years after being drafted?
MortiestOfMortys
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A lot depends on how Jiricek develops over the next few years. I think he hits, but we’ll see. If he doesn’t, I still see 4-5 dmen in our prospect pool with size and skating ability who could arguably be in that top-4 range. That’s an excellent foundation. And it keeps us from adding expensive older dmen in FA.
I agree that we have to keep adding to the top end of the group. But I don’t think there’s a lot of reason to be pessimistic about what we already have, either.
