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Solid Dvorsky article. DeFranks is much better than…I’m blanking on his name. The Rams writer the PD put on the Blues beat so he’d have a job after JR left for the Athletic.

Dvorsky is doing what he should - developing, working in his weaknesses, slowly getting better. I agree with the premise of the coaching staff - don’t send him up until he’s fully ready to stick in the NHL. He’s doing well but still has a ton of developing he can do in the AHL.

The little I’ve seen of the T-birds this season, Dvorsky, Sylvegard, Kaskimaki, Alexandrov and Johannesson have stood out the most to me. Ellis has passed Zherenko on the depth chart. He’s looked good. Not sure what to make of Zherenko. He was locked in the first part of last season, got injured and hasn’t been close to the same goalie since. Not sure I ever heard what that injury was. No idea if it’s still impacting him but his play for about a year now has taken a noticeable dip.
 
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PocketNines said:
I have been watching Mrsic and my jaw dropped open when I saw 16 yo Bedard, that is not doing this kid any favors.

Mrsic is really active engaged and effective in the offensive zone. Really good at reading off his teammates, they have good chemistry and passing and he is the driver. He's fast, he generates chances. But it can't be oversold. This is way way oversold. Bedard should be compared to Gavin McKenna.

The one thing which stands out I think will translate is his ability to shift and get off a shot, which is going to be valuable in an era of smart shot blocking defenders. He has a snipe of a release and is very confident with the puck on his stick.
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Yeah, not trying to discredit Mrsic. He’s having a good 18 yr old season. Looking good for a 4th rd pick. But the Bedard comp just isn’t fair to him. Tons of 18 yr olds pace to 100 pt or better seasons these days.

Mrsic looked the most raw/not ready of any player wearing a Blues jersey in the preseason game I saw in Des Moines. He looked tiny and lucky to escape the game alive. But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have an NHL future. But he’s far away. Absolutely has some skill, shiftiness and a good shot. He’s one to keep an eye on this season and next as perhaps we might have something if he’s able to bulk up and round out his game before he turns pro at age 20.
 
STL fan in MN said:
Solid Dvorsky article. DeFranks is much better than…I’m blanking on his name. The Rams writer the PD put on the Blues beat so he’d have a job after JR left for the Athletic.

Dvorsky is doing what he should - developing, working in his weaknesses, slowly getting better. I agree with the premise of the coaching staff - don’t send him up until he’s fully ready to stick in the NHL. He’s doing well but still has a ton of developing he can do in the AHL.

The little I’ve seen of the T-birds this season, Dvorsky, Sylvegard, Kaskimaki, Alexandrov and Johannesson have stood out the most to me. Ellis has passed Zherenko on the depth chart. He’s looked good. Not sure what to make of Zherenko. He was locked in the first part of last season, got injured and hasn’t been close to the same goalie since. Not sure I ever heard what that injury was. No idea if it’s still impacting him but his play for about a year now has taken a noticeable dip.
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Wasn't it Jeff something?
 
SirPaste said:
Jim Thomas, he was a football guy thrown into a hockey job after JR left the Post Dispatch and Rams went to LA. He was a good writer just didn't know much about hockey
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Same with Tom Timmerman, who made it super clear almost every day that he’d rather be covering soccer. At least Jim was trying, he just was out of his element. TT actively hated covering hockey, and turned in a bare-minimum effort. DeFranks has been so much better, it’s been nice to have coverage from someone who cares again.
 
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MortiestOfMortys said:
Same with Tom Timmerman, who made it super clear almost every day that he’d rather be covering soccer. At least Jim was trying, he just was out of his element. TT actively hated covering hockey, and turned in a bare-minimum effort. DeFranks has been so much better, it’s been nice to have coverage from someone who cares again.
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I agree, I think DeFranks is great.
 
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Agree, although I don't perceive him as undersized for junior. He's like 6' so a normal filling out should be sufficient
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He’s listed at 6’0” but I seriously doubt he is. My son and I were on the glass for warmups (thanks Parayko and Holloway for giving him warmup pucks) and Mrsic looked so much shorter than the pros also listed at 6’0”.

But yeah, he’s 18. He’s going to get bigger. Perhaps not taller but he should be 20ish lbs heavier by the time he’s 22-23. But he appears to be pretty slightly built too. Going to need to fill out like Bolduc has. It’s absolutely possible but it’s an area of concern is all I’m saying.

He has skill give given his deficiencies and size, I can see why he slipped to the 4th round. But these are the types I love to take a swing on in that range of the draft. Go for talent. Go for the home run. I don’t see a lot of value if picking the guy that maybe turns into a 4th liner after you spend 5-7 years developing him. You can get that sort of player cheap, sometimes even for free on the waiver wire. I mean, heck, M.Joseph is more than a 4th liner and we got him AND an asset for nothing.

That sort of cost/benefit analysis should be built into draft selections more IMO.
 
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Right, a home run is a Hoffman type, a likely outcome is a AHL/Euro top 6 type. You hope you can get a 3rd line scoring winger out of him.

And stats at this level mean nothing in the likelihood of him making it. It's going to be about adding size and then once he hits AHL level, it's going to be about can he still produce at the pro level, and then it's about transitioning to the NHL. Alexandrov is sort of an example. In his D+1 season, he was the only player on his junior team at over ppg, and his scoring rates had a pretty good increase over his draft year. He figured the AHL out after a season, but so far hasn't been able to break through at the NHL level.

I don't really get too excited about those types, unless they look like a top pick in some camps. It's just such a long process for those guys to get NHL ready, and stat watching doesn't really indicate anything for them.
 
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STL fan in MN said:
Solid Dvorsky article. DeFranks is much better than…I’m blanking on his name. The Rams writer the PD put on the Blues beat so he’d have a job after JR left for the Athletic.

Dvorsky is doing what he should - developing, working in his weaknesses, slowly getting better. I agree with the premise of the coaching staff - don’t send him up until he’s fully ready to stick in the NHL. He’s doing well but still has a ton of developing he can do in the AHL.

The little I’ve seen of the T-birds this season, Dvorsky, Sylvegard, Kaskimaki, Alexandrov and Johannesson have stood out the most to me. Ellis has passed Zherenko on the depth chart. He’s looked good. Not sure what to make of Zherenko. He was locked in the first part of last season, got injured and hasn’t been close to the same goalie since. Not sure I ever heard what that injury was. No idea if it’s still impacting him but his play for about a year now has taken a noticeable dip.
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High ankle sprain for Zherenko. That's a tough one to bounce back from for goalies.

I can speak from personal experience.

SirPaste said:
I agree, I think DeFranks is great.
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DeFranks has been a breath of fresh air because the Blues coverage, especially when it comes to prospects, has been very lacking the last several years.
 
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Snubbed4Vezina said:
High ankle sprain for Zherenko. That's a tough one to bounce back from for goalies.

I can speak from personal experience.


DeFranks has been a breath of fresh air because the Blues coverage, especially when it comes to prospects, has been very lacking the last several years.
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Yeah, high ankle sprains are a killer. Explains why Faulk looked like a shell of his usual self last season as well. Wouldn’t Zherenko be recovered from that by now though?
 
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STL fan in MN said:
Yeah, high ankle sprains are a killer. Explains why Faulk looked like a shell of his usual self last season as well. Wouldn’t Zherenko be recovered from that by now though?
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It's likely not an injury at this point but more of a mental thing with Z that began when he tried to return from the injury last season. I haven't seen many Springfield games this season but at the end of last season he didn't look like the goalie we saw before the injury. A guy like Faulk can bounce back easily because he knows he has the game to play at this level. For Z lose time to an injury like that during a key development year could be a much more difficult obstacle.

All this is pure speculation but what I do know is he doesn't look nearly as confident as he did prior to the injury.
 
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Nice to see Dvorsky and Sylvegard forming some chemistry together and leading Springfield in scoring. Seems like an ideal linemate at the moment, tough player with a good shot, also having spent time in SHL.

My hope is that they continue their current growth together and get called up post TDL to finish out the season in STL.
 
Quebec is playing Moncton tonight. Dorian vs Pekarcik. Pekarcik is skating with Desnoyers tonight. Both just picked up an assist.

Have a game Luic Goyette! Trois!
 
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Jecho has scored early in his game it's 1-0. Stancl, Mrsic and Jecho all in action tonight, Stancl's game begins top of the hour. I'm watching Mrsic at the moment playing Gavin McKenna. may be kind of Oshie sized when he fills out? Mrsic isn't a reverse hitter from what I've seen though.

I should be working on notes for Blood Simple (1984) but I am watching Mrsic instead
 
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Prince Albert got caved the last two periods in shots and their goaltender was great. Something like 16-6 then 24-6 but they forced overtime whereupon Gavin McKenna stripped Mrsic in his own slot and fed the winner

Stancl just missed a glorious SH chance
 
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I’m not sure what the Blues see in Dorian. I can’t say I saw anything in his game that made me think he can move to the next level.
Pekarcik was very solid and made some nice plays. I still see a top nine guy. I wouldn’t mind the Blues taking a flyer on Julius Sumpf. Solid two way player with good NHL potential. Denoyers continues to impress me. 4 point night, solid in all zones, and good skill, size and speed. Top six center definitely. I see Yzerman lite and I will take that in a heartbeat.
 
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PerryTurnbullfan said:
I’m not sure what the Blues see in Dorian. I can’t say I saw anything in his game that made me think he can move to the next level.
Pekarcik was very solid and made some nice plays. I still see a top nine guy. I wouldn’t mind the Blues taking a flyer on Julius Sumpf. Solid two way player with good NHL potential. Denoyers continues to impress me. 4 point night, solid in all zones, and good skill, size and speed. Top six center definitely. I see Yzerman lite and I will take that in a heartbeat.
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I just assume at this point Dorian was a charity pick, Doug and Pierre probably have a good relationship. Kinda like the Devils taking Brodeur’s kid years ago.
 
Bobby Orrtuzzo said:
I just assume at this point Dorian was a charity pick, Doug and Pierre probably have a good relationship. Kinda like the Devils taking Brodeur’s kid years ago.
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Now Dorian can take his participation trophy and go buy me a honey cruller from Timmy's, but only the ones that share space with Wendy's cuz I also wanna Frosty.
 
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