Bleacher Report blogger says that Toronto no longer appeals to free agents, not considered a winning organization
- Thread starter SeanMoneyHands
- Start date
-
ALL Pickem Pools are now open - NFL Survivor, NFL Pickem AND NHL Survivor Click here for info and to join a pool
Tanev will have the worst stretch of his career in Toronto.
OEL - eventually thrown to leaf nation wolves, eaten alive.
Last edited:
TheNumber4
Registered User
- Nov 11, 2011
- 43,794
- 54,687
So essentially what I’ve been saying for years. Winning just doesn’t happen in Leaf’s land, hasn’t since 1967.
Even Pajama boys like Skinner are starting to realize it. And ROR before him. The Core 4 hype job was able to convince free agents before that it was not a matter of if but how many cups they’d win. But now that narrative has been outted as a scam job. McDavid won’t be dumb enough to fall for it either.
Even Pajama boys like Skinner are starting to realize it. And ROR before him. The Core 4 hype job was able to convince free agents before that it was not a matter of if but how many cups they’d win. But now that narrative has been outted as a scam job. McDavid won’t be dumb enough to fall for it either.
TMLeafer
Rest in Peace Johnny Bower
Looks like the NHL offseason universe also revolves around the Leafs. Players choose between options in free agency all the time, guess it's breaking news to some folks here. I can't really (off the top of my head) name a marquee can't miss free agent in a position of need that I would have overpaid for anyway, so if this conversation is about third line centers or flash in the pan second pair Dmen, then it's a useless one. If Skinner is your example, thats the "winner" they're supposed to sign?
Sidney the Kidney
One last time
- Jun 29, 2009
- 56,304
- 48,162
There's a difference between "promising future" and "winning organization". Sure, you could argue the Leafs at that time fell into the first category when all their youngsters were just starting out. But to be a "winning organization" you have to have a track record of *winning*.
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
I forgot about Pesce . I agree he’d be a better get but it seemed like Jersey was the only choice . Tanev over Montour and easily . Cashing in huge on a fluke season
Probably, but they still attracted a big target and a guy who saw firsthand what it takes.Tanev will have the worst stretch of his career in Toronto.
OEL will get eventually thrown to the leaf nation wolves to be eaten alive.
Their core needs to take the next step and push through in the playoffs or they’re stuck. I’m a-ok with them not winning and I’ve not enjoyed plenty of their fans, both here and in person, but it’s incredible for those great fans that I’ve met.
*winning the Cup. I’d be happier for some Leafs than I would others. I was rewatching the Panthers win as I distractedly typed that.
Oilslick941611
Registered User
“Attracted” by offering term and money no one else was offering, for an aging, decrepit, defence man with knee/leg issues.
Delusions of leaf fans.
spiny norman
Administrator
It's none of these things imo. It's the insane Hollywood-Borderlining-Politicalized media attention the franchise and players get. You're not under a microscope in Toronto, you're under a goddamn telescope. That kind of attention does weird things to people and heavily distracts from focusing on playing hockey because well, that's why you're there.
The Leafs should figure out a way of shielding players from this. Media attention is great for relevance but you got to deflect all the excess nonsense. You don't see that level of media insanity here in California.
On paper the Leafs should be a team you'd fear to play. Watching them play, and this is my own opinion, they lack the core values of a team looking to win it all - the hunger, the resolve, the actual teamwork. Making tens of millions of dollars without some sort of performance balance to it is probably a lot of the why, though.
And I'm one of those people who would love to see the Leafs hoist the Cup, so I'm definitely not against them.
The Leafs should figure out a way of shielding players from this. Media attention is great for relevance but you got to deflect all the excess nonsense. You don't see that level of media insanity here in California.
On paper the Leafs should be a team you'd fear to play. Watching them play, and this is my own opinion, they lack the core values of a team looking to win it all - the hunger, the resolve, the actual teamwork. Making tens of millions of dollars without some sort of performance balance to it is probably a lot of the why, though.
And I'm one of those people who would love to see the Leafs hoist the Cup, so I'm definitely not against them.
hamzarocks
Registered User
Think it was Skinner, Henrique, Montour and Zadorov who we missed out on, despite not all of them being smart adds at their current deals
Leafs were a medicore destination from 06 to 16 then became hot and got some big name UFAs in Marleau, Tavares, Brodie, Bertuzzi in current contention period
This year we got tanev and OEL who were more middle tier guys then what we would be able to find in the past.
I can see why players would want to avoid Toronto as there is stigma with the core, high expectations still, poor management and ownership, and tough route to winning with atlantic having better teams than Toronto
Ok, but other teams have done the same. I’m not saying Toronto isn’t a troublesome spot and doesn’t struggle getting premier players to sign, but Tanev was still wanted by plenty of teams.
JaegerDice
The mark of my dignity shall scar thy DNA
- Dec 26, 2014
- 25,512
- 10,125
How can you not love Steve Dangle?
As far as Toronto, at what point were they considered a winning organization?
Toronto’s big advantage has always been their wealth. They could add on extra years the player was never gonna play, they could put half a roster on LTIR without blinking, etc.
Nobody outside of maybe Tavares or the husk of Spezza has taken less to play in Toronto, and neither did it cause of the ‘winning’. They did it cause of emotional ties to the city.
As far as Toronto, at what point were they considered a winning organization?
Toronto’s big advantage has always been their wealth. They could add on extra years the player was never gonna play, they could put half a roster on LTIR without blinking, etc.
Nobody outside of maybe Tavares or the husk of Spezza has taken less to play in Toronto, and neither did it cause of the ‘winning’. They did it cause of emotional ties to the city.
Alright but is there any support for that? Because when you google it, it doesn’t come out that way.
Cost of Living City Ranking
Explore the cost of living for expatriate employees and their families in 226 global cities with Mercer’s 2024 Cost of Living city ranking.
www.mercer.com
I’m not downloading the eiu report but they have Montreal as the most expensive city in Canada but only 25th in North America.
New cost-of-living study finds that Montreal is more expensive than Toronto
In a new study by EIU, Montreal was found to be more expensive than Toronto and the 25th most expensive city in North America.
cultmtl.com
So what are you looking at that says different?
Bondurant
Registered User
Rent free in your pea brain even in July
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
I don’t expect that Mcdavid will reach ufa but if does Toronto would absolutely be a big consideration
“Team that has spent all of its money on high end offensive players and fails repeatedly in playoffs not an interesting destination to FAs, more at 11”
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
Robidas island has several residents. That’s exactly what I expect to happen ^
for the media to talk about sure ....... but CM won't be a Maple Leaf.
Ad
Upcoming events
-
-
-
-
-
Men's US Open SEMIFINAL - Jannik Sinner vs Jack DraperWagers: 4Staked: $34,100.00Event closes- Updated: