Value of: Bjugstad to MTL?

[Mersss]

Believe it or not, most prospects spend time in the AHL before making the jump to the NHL. Plenty of small players who tore up the juniors made the NHL too so using that as logic to call him a career AHLer is asinine.

In that case, what will he do for the Habs cup run in the next 1-4years? Nothing..

Bottom line, if the Panthers qnat Pacioretty, Huberdeau and bjugstad ar coming back and WE will be sending the AHLer with top6 potentiel like Hudon or Andrighetto.

Don't like it? then fine we'll keep our 30-40goal scorer on a sweetheart deal and you'll keep your big 3rc line C who hasn't done nothign lately to command such a return that you are looking for

 

[Dabeast]

In that case, what will he do for the Habs cup run in the next 1-4years? Nothing..

Bottom line, if the Panthers qnat Pacioretty, Huberdeau and bjugstad ar coming back and WE will be sending the AHLer with top6 potentiel like Hudon or Andrighetto.

Don't like it? then fine we'll keep our 30-40goal scorer on a sweetheart deal and you'll keep your big 3rc line C who hasn't done nothign lately to command such a return that you are looking for

I was just arguing the career AHL line. I didn't say Bjugs+Hawryluk for Patches makes sense more the Habs

 

[Dog]

I didn't say he was. I was just arguing the career AHLer line.

He might be

He's played 1 professional hockey game

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Bjugstad won't be available unless Florida still looks to be on the outs at the deadline. Not for futures anyway.

 

[Dabeast]

He might be

He's played 1 professional hockey game

He's been injured

 

[TT1]

Honestly i've never been a big fan of Bjugstad, all he has is size. The center i want from Florida is Trocheck, the LD i want is hometown boy Matheson. I'd be ready to move Pacioretty for Trocheck + Matheson.

 

[1909]

Bjugstad won't be available unless Florida still looks to be on the outs at the deadline. Not for futures anyway.

Why would he be put on the trade market ? Panthers don't seem to have much depth at center, anyway.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Honestly i've never been a big fan of Bjugstad, all he has is size. The center i want from Florida is Trocheck, the LD i want is hometown boy Matheson. I'd be ready to move Pacioretty for Trocheck + Matheson.

Of course you would be. Why does Florida do this though?

Why would he be put on the trade market ? Panthers don't seem to have much depth at center, anyway.

That's actually our biggest strength.

Barkov
Trocheck
Bjugstad
Malgin
Mackenzie
McCann

 

[TT1]

Of course you would be. Why does Florida do this though?



That's actually our biggest strength.

Barkov
Trocheck
Bjugstad
Malgin
Mackenzie
McCann

That's the asking price for a top LW'er on a great deal, Bjugstad doesn't get the convo started unless the + is huge. The only enticing starter (within the ballpark) for Patches is Trocheck for me.

 

[Mersss]

Of course you would be. Why does Florida do this though?



That's actually our biggest strength.

Barkov
Trocheck
Bjugstad
Malgin
Mackenzie
McCann

Why would Habs settle for anything less?

How many 30goals scorere were they in the NHL last year? How many of em have a contract of 5M$ or less /year?

Why would settle to trade one of the ebst contract in the NHL for a bunch of 3rd liners and picks? No reason to.

I wouldn't even do Trochek + Matheson as, IMO, Trochek is not what Habs need. Again he's had 1 season over 50pts in his career. Wouldn't trade a perennial 30-40goal scorer for that.

If i'm trading Patch, Huberdeau is coming back with a significant + coming with him (se McCann, Bjugstad, etc...). Anything else and we'd be selling low on what is one of the best deal in the NHL in the last couple of years

 

[FLpanthers16]

Why would Habs settle for anything less?

How many 30goals scorere were they in the NHL last year? How many of em have a contract of 5M$ or less /year?

Why would settle to trade one of the ebst contract in the NHL for a bunch of 3rd liners and picks? No reason to.

I wouldn't even do Trochek + Matheson as, IMO, Trochek is not what Habs need. Again he's had 1 season over 50pts in his career. Wouldn't trade a perennial 30-40goal scorer for that.

If i'm trading Patch, Huberdeau is coming back with a significant + coming with him (se McCann, Bjugstad, etc...). Anything else and we'd be selling low on what is one of the best deal in the NHL in the last couple of years

Come on dude your team would do that deal every day off the week.

Patch is a very good hockey player don't get me wrong, but thats alot to give up from our perspective.

 

[Mersss]

Come on dude your team would do that deal every day off the week.

Why would we?

Trochek has had 1 good season that's it. Unless he can prove he is a consistent 50pts 2nd line C, his value isn't close to what Patch value is. BTW, he'S on pace for a 40pts season as we stand.

Matheson is a good prospect too, but doesn't scream top2 D IMO. a good top4 yes, but that's it. See we already have a good top4D around the same age as Matheson that also plays LHD, his name is Nathan Beaulieu. Will Matheson be better? Probably, but I do not see Matheson as a viable LHD alonside Weber on our 1st unit.

Trading Patch (top5 LW in the game) for a 2nd-3rd line C + #3-4D IS NOT what Habs management need to do. Too much risk involve as, in the BEST CASE scenario, Trochek becomes a 50pts 2nd line C and Matheson a GREAT #3D. And that'S being optimistic.

 

[TT1]

Why would we?

Trochek has had 1 good season that's it. Unless he can prove he is a consistent 50pts 2nd line C, his value isn't close to what Patch value is. BTW, he'S on pace for a 40pts season as we stand.

Matheson is a good prospect too, but doesn't scream top2 D IMO. a good top4 yes, but that's it. See we already have a good top4D around the same age as Matheson that also plays LHD, his name is Nathan Beaulieu. Will Matheson be better? Probably, but I do not see Matheson as a viable LHD alonside Weber on our 1st unit.

Trading Patch (top5 LW in the game) for a 2nd-3rd line C + #3-4D IS NOT what Habs management need to do. Too much risk involve as, in the BEST CASE scenario, Trochek becomes a 50pts 2nd line C and Matheson a GREAT #3D. And that'S being optimistic.

Trocheck is already a 50+ center for me (highly unlikely that he won't reach that potential, he'll even exceed it imo). I love watching him play, he has so much talent and is defensively responsible.

The gamble for me is with Matheson but he has a lot of talent, he's already a top 4 D in his first season, very likely he'll be a #3 down the line. He's a great skater too, could be a very good partner for Webs.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Florida and Montreal don't make great trade partners right now. We clearly aren't close to being one 30 goal scorer from being a cup favourite and are not willing to part with TWO big pieces for 2.7 years of a top 10 LW who is great but this deal doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

[Mersss]

Trocheck is already a 50+ center for me (highly unlikely that he won't reach that potential, he'll even exceed it imo). I love watching him play, he has so much talent and is defensively responsible.

The gamble for me is with Matheson but he has a lot of talent, he's already a top 4 D in his first season, very likely he'll be a #3 down the line. He's a great skater too, could be a very good partner for Webs.

Again, unti Trotchek PROVES he can get 50+pts season consistently (not the case as we speak, he's looking at a 40pts season), he is NOT what we need. If he already had 2-3 season of 50pts production under his belt? Deal i'd be all over it. Unfortunately he's not

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

Thanks for keeping it civil. What's your thoughts on Radulov's next contract? Guy is a beast and exactly what most teams need. He's been your catalyst this year behind Price. Solid pick up there.

He will get a 6 million 5 year deal or something similar to that if he keeps playing like he has. He will be very hard to re-sign if he keeps producing, but that is something I hope we have to suffer through...

 

[hockeyheadlines]

The original post was about Bjugstad, how about getting back to this player? Canadiens are not moving extra (Pacioretty) pieces to get to him.

What's he worth now or at the trade deadline?

 

[Dog]

He's been injured

That doesn't take away from the fact he only has one professional game......and he might end up being a career AHLer

 

[Dabeast]

That doesn't take away from the fact he only has one professional game......and he might end up being a career AHLer

He MIGHT be, but calling him one right now is stupid

 

[the paisanos guy]

That doesn't take away from the fact he only has one professional game......and he might end up being a career AHLer

He's only 20 years old and is coming off a great season in the Jrs, I don't know why you're defending the guy who labelled him a career AHLer.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

The original post was about Bjugstad, how about getting back to this player? Canadiens are not moving extra (Pacioretty) pieces to get to him.

What's he worth now or at the trade deadline?

Assuming the Panthers continue to play the way they have of late and the same for Bjugstad, at the trade deadline, he could be had for a somewhat promising prospect and/or a decent pick. At that point, there will probably be much better options.

Now, trading Bjugstad without a player who can have an immediate impact coming back looks like the team is giving up on this season.

 

[Chez Weber]

What about McCann? I really liked what I saw from him when he was with the Canucks. He's had it hard in Florida but I think he wasn't playing C which may have been a factor.

Anyways, Florida is loaded on C and Habs could use a young C to play on the 2nd/3rd line while Galchenyuk is out. Maybe a deal around one of Hudon/Scherbak/McCarron?

 

[Runner77]

We want to ADD to our core because we are contenders, NOT subtract from our core for a young player who may or may not develop well enough to replace the guy we are trading away.

Aren't most teams "contenders" this time of year?

Last year ain't too long ago and the Habs were contenders then too. How about we leave the contender thing out of the discussion?

 

[TT1]

After Pacioretty's 4goal, 5 point game his value has gone up to Barkov + Ekblad. Awaiting your call.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

After Pacioretty's 4goal, 5 point game his value has gone up to Barkov + Ekblad. Awaiting your call.

Don't forgot DD, Juulsen and the 2nd round pick