Bills Off-Season 2013 Style (Wilson, Barnett, McGee released, T Jackson re-signed)

[Sports Enthusiast]

http://www.wgr550.com/pages/15199448.php?contentType=4&contentId=12139442

A wa of looking at things, though I laugh at Joe B's remark of the Saints being a successful franchise. No they hit the jackpot taking a risk on Brees. Have you watched them all these years? The D STINKS! Without Brees they'd be as bad as the Bills.

 

[boots electric]

Russ Brandon all but confirmed in WGR that they are going after Lovie Smith for DC.

What did he say?

 

[JOHNBOY]

If they can get Lovie as DC I will be one very happy camper..

 

[Myllz]

If they're starting the search with Smith and Pettine, they're going in the right direction.

 

[HockeyH3aven]

What did he say?

I think the person you've quoted is reading more into what Russ said than they should.

He addressed questions about Lovie Smith's interest about the Head Coaching position, the conversation between him and Lovie, and when asked about Smith as a possible defensive coordinator he said (paraphrasing)

"We're going to be very aggressive with regards to hiring assistant coaches and coordinators. Lovie and I had a tremendous conversation, and he was very interested in the talent level on both sides of the ball"

He never directly addressed it. I would expect them to pursue him, but nothing he said would really indicate it. It was standard question dodging.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

LOL @ #5

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...bills-head-coach-doug-marrone-meets-the-press

Guessing Marrone's offense:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...at-will-doug-marrones-buffalo-bills-look-like

 

[aceface33]

I think the person you've quoted is reading more into what Russ said than they should.

He addressed questions about Lovie Smith's interest about the Head Coaching position, the conversation between him and Lovie, and when asked about Smith as a possible defensive coordinator he said (paraphrasing)

"We're going to be very aggressive with regards to hiring assistant coaches and coordinators. Lovie and I had a tremendous conversation, and he was very interested in the talent level on both sides of the ball"

He never directly addressed it. I would expect them to pursue him, but nothing he said would really indicate it. It was standard question dodging.

Ok, maybe I interpreted it differently but they asked him if they were going after Lovie Smith as a defensive coordinator and Brandon directly responded that they were going to be "very aggressive" in going after coordinators. I would consider that "all but confirming" that they are going after him.

 

[HockeyH3aven]

Ok, maybe I interpreted it differently but they asked him if they were going after Lovie Smith as a defensive coordinator and Brandon directly responded that they were going to be "very aggressive" in going after coordinators. I would consider that "all but confirming" that they are going after him.

Yeah, you're making a jump there. He says "we're going to be aggressive" all the time. It was standard question dodging. Even if they weren't going to try that, they certainly wouldn't say "We're not interested".

 

[aceface33]

Yeah, you're making a jump there. He says "we're going to be aggressive" all the time. It was standard question dodging. Even if they weren't going to try that, they certainly wouldn't say "We're not interested".

So you don't think they are going after Lovie Smith for DC?

 

[HockeyH3aven]

So you don't think they are going after Lovie Smith for DC?

I think they are, but in no way did anything Russ say indicate that. His response was as vanilla as they come. "We're going to be aggressive" is his catch phrase.

 

[aceface33]

I think they are, but in no way did anything Russ say indicate that. His response was as vanilla as they come. "We're going to be aggressive" is his catch phrase.

So we agree.

 

[johnjm22]

According to Adam Schefter, Marrone was the most in demand coach on the market other than Kelly. Makes me feel good that we got him. Apparently, Marrone studied all teams that wanted him, and concluded that the Bills have the most talent.

And I would be thrilled with Pettine as DC.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

According to Adam Schefter, Marrone was the most in demand coach on the market other than Kelly. Makes me feel good that we got him. Apparently, Marrone studied all teams that wanted him, and concluded that the Bills have the most talent.

And I would be thrilled with Pettine as DC.

Not sure where he got that from. Philly has Bryce Brown, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and McCoy.

The Bills have Spiller(Jackson if healthy) and maybe Johnson...though DeSean Jackson is 10x better than Johnson.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

LOL @ #5

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...bills-head-coach-doug-marrone-meets-the-press

Guessing Marrone's offense:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...at-will-doug-marrones-buffalo-bills-look-like

1) The Jets play in Jersey, not downstate

2) That second article should be really refreshing for some of us. My favorite parts:

They completely changed their approach in 2012. Syracuse re-did its entire offense in the middle of fall practice after studying Oregon and Toledo extensively in the offseason. Brown says the theory was to simplify things with one-back formations and go no-huddle more often. They simplified the pass concepts of the playbook.

The new approach took a while to pay off, but it really took hold in the middle of the season. Marrone integrated just enough zone-read options to make opponents worry.

So what does this tell us?

Marrone had a pro-style approach, but he was willing to be flexible. He certainly sounds open to some of the up-tempo and zone-read concepts that have taken the NFL by storm this season. He's willing to adapt. Brown also noted that Marrone was effective as a featured coach on a DVD teaching offensive-line technique.

A guy who looks at what others are doing, and who is willing to try new things to improve his team? What an unusual concept! (Then again, that brought the Wildcat here...so hopefully he's smarter about what things to copycat)

 

[NotABadPeriod]

TBN reporting Bills also looking at Jags DC Mel Tucker:

Tucker just finished his fourth season with the Jaguars. He also served as their interim coach for the final five games after they fired Jack Del Rio.

Tucker is from the Nick Saban coaching tree. Tucker was a graduate assistant under Saban at Michigan State and later served as defensive backs coach under Saban at Louisiana State.

With Tucker as defensive coordinator, Jacksonville ranked 29th, 11th, 27th and 24th in points and 30th, sixth, 28th and 23rd in yards

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-...king-at-jaguars-d-coordinator-mel-tucker.html

Don't know enough about him, but those ranks don't look very appetizing. Then again, it is the Jaguars.

 

[dma0034]

Not sure where he got that from. Philly has Bryce Brown, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and McCoy.

The Bills have Spiller(Jackson if healthy) and maybe Johnson...though DeSean Jackson is 10x better than Johnson.

Bryce Brown and McCoy aren't as talented as Spillert-Jackson. Jackson is a good wr but Stevie Johnson is on par. Maclin is better than any 2nd wr on the bills and Celek is slighty better than Chandler. QB situations are poor with both. but the difference is the Oline... *since Marrone has been an OLine coach before*... Bills are far better in that category. On the Defensive side the Bills have more too.

 

[johnjm22]

Not sure where he got that from. Philly has Bryce Brown, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and McCoy.

The Bills have Spiller(Jackson if healthy) and maybe Johnson...though DeSean Jackson is 10x better than Johnson.

I'd take Johnson over Jackson any day.

The offensive line is very important to Marrone. Bill's have a quality line with upside, the Eagle's offensive line is terrible. That might be one of the reasons Buffalo was attractive to Marrone.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Bryce Brown and McCoy aren't as talented as Spillert-Jackson. Jackson is a good wr but Stevie Johnson is on par. Maclin is better than any 2nd wr on the bills and Celek is slighty better than Chandler. QB situations are poor with both. but the difference is the Oline... *since Marrone has been an OLine coach before*... Bills are far better in that category. On the Defensive side the Bills have more too.

Bryce Brown is pretty good, his main issue is hanging on to the ball, if he figures that out...Fred Jackson to me is going nowhere but down. Hes had 3 injuries in 2 years and his seasons been cut short 2 years in a row.

As for Johnson he's got weak hands, he will get his catches but he drops a lot of easy passes.

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

And DeSean Jackson doesnt? Dude has had his own drop issues and can't stay healthy.

 

[dma0034]

Bryce Brown is pretty good, his main issue is hanging on to the ball, if he figures that out...Fred Jackson to me is going nowhere but down. Hes had 3 injuries in 2 years and his seasons been cut short 2 years in a row.

As for Johnson he's got weak hands, he will get his catches but he drops a lot of easy passes.

Could say the same for Jackson and Johnson is a better possession receiver (which is more important than a deep threat).

Spiller > McCoy > Jackson = Brown imo right now. Eagles should of ran it every other play with McCoy.

 

[HockeyH3aven]

If somebody seriously accusing Johnson of poor hands? It's the guys strength, he catches anything and everything. That's why he's able to produce with one of the least accurate QB's in the NFL.

Guy had one fluke drop in a game against the steelers and he's got bad hands. I guess there's a reason why I am unable to quote certain posters on this board.

 

[BuiltTagonTough]

TBN reporting Bills also looking at Jags DC Mel Tucker:



http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-...king-at-jaguars-d-coordinator-mel-tucker.html

Don't know enough about him, but those ranks don't look very appetizing. Then again, it is the Jaguars.

That sounds terrible. I say we kidnap Lovie like we did Mario.

 

[whiplash]

If somebody seriously accusing Johnson of poor hands? It's the guys strength, he catches anything and everything. That's why he's able to produce with one of the least accurate QB's in the NFL.

Guy had one fluke drop in a game against the steelers and he's got bad hands. I guess there's a reason why I am unable to quote certain posters on this board.

Honestly he's had 2 real bad drops that I can think of. He's actually a very sure-handed receiver but those drops were notable ones (the Steelers and Jets games last season) so now any time he misses a pass - keep in mind who's throwing to him - he gets unfairly slammed.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Honestly he's had 2 real bad drops that I can think of. He's actually a very sure-handed receiver but those drops were notable ones (the Steelers and Jets games last season) so now any time he misses a pass - keep in mind who's throwing to him - he gets unfairly slammed.

Just not his biggest fan. He dropped one in the Miami game(though the refs called it a fumble for some dumb reason)

He might run good routes but hes not worth the cash he got, just like Fitz. Everybody knows he;s a #2 WR at best. Donald Jones is probably more talented than him but it's TBA. Graham has the speed to become a #1. Nelson is a solid #3.

Those were bad drops though, at crucial times. But it's okay for people to be on Fitz for the crucial INT's. Stevie and Graham drop some of the shorter slant passes though.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

That sounds terrible. I say we kidnap Lovie like we did Mario.

Pettine is the guy you want. They are seeking him, now better get him!