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Taking the racist stuff aside, the physical abuse alone makes me want him gone. That's recent, and that's not ok
My thoughts exactly. I was willing to wait to listen more about his side and give him the benefit of the doubt for the Aliu thing, but there's too much on the physical abuse side to the point that I think I've pretty much made my mind. I don't even need the Aliu thing to tilt the odds. I think it's pretty much cut and dry from me now purely based on the Carolina stuff. I want him gone. There was atonement potential for purely the Aliu situation IMO. Not really for the Carolina one though. Too recent. I don't think we need to tar and feather him on the way out though.
For some of you though, you guys have a crazy understanding of due diligence.
Per Wiki:
Due diligence is defined as: the investigation or exercise of care that a reasonable business or person is expected to take before entering into an agreement or contract with another party, or an act with a certain standard of care.
The term “due diligence” means "required carefulness" or "reasonable care" in general usage, and has been used in this sense since at least the mid-fifteenth century.
Some of you are seriously not understanding the concept of "reasonable". The Carolina thing was an internal thing. Very likely Treliving wasn't privy to that information and didn't know anything about that until the tweets were made. Heck, that's typical labour law. You could be the crappiest employee ever, showing up to work and snorting off cocaine at your desk, and if someone called in because you were listed as a reference, you literally cannot say a damn thing about it due to confidentiality reasons. Otherwise, you literally could be sued. I'd say the same of the Aliu incident. Treliving doesn't have access to this information, most people don't have this information on the tip of their mind waiting to spew all the beans, those that still remember it aren't talking about it... you have to go into witch hunt territory to get this stuff out into the open. The thing about witch hunts, is that they're not considered "reasonable". Without Aliu's recent tweet as the catalyst, anything beyond the basics for figuring out if Peters is a sociopath or not is not a reasonable approach.
Seriously speaking, too many people act like those that have access to behind the curtain are all knowing behind the curtain. That's not the case. Treliving could easily have done way more due diligence than any of you guys have imagined and still not found enough evidence to even imagine that the guy possibly could be this bad. Also, might I remind you that you'd be doing this diligence for every single candidate. Not just some random one. You have to have a very good reason to go any further. Otherwise, you'd get in trouble for being discriminatory.
Keep in mind that Treliving also interviewed a ton of candidates 2 years prior to Peters. He already essentially knows everything he needs to know on the entire pool of coaching candidates he can approach based on perceived ownership restrictions. Why does he have to go through them all again? He just asks around and looks up information and tops up his existing knowledge on those guys. That's very reasonable in terms of due diligence as well. He didn't literally do nothing even though he only interviewed Peters formally that summer. I heard on the radio that our current interim coach Geoff Ward was interviewed in the same period as Gulutzan for HC. We was hired without a formal interview to be an AC to Peters, but there's no damn way I'd agree with anyone who thinks that we didn't do enough due diligence on him either. Peters IMO is a long shot "maybe" at best.