Big Mac's Bait Shop

[Marshall]

Been discussing which pieces you'd be willing to dangle in trade this TDL or this off-season.

For me, I feel like Bowey has been passed by Siegenthaler in the organization, and I'd be comfortable with the organeyezation using him as a trading asset. Burakovsky seems obvious.

I'm also curious about Riley Barber - guy hasn't gotten too many shots in DC, and apparently might be a UFA this off-season. Don't think he'll return a bunch, but I'd be fine moving him so he gets a shot somewhere.

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[Silky mitts]

With Lucas Johansson I feel like he’s either going to be like Nate Schmidt where he produces just in time to get scooped up by Seattle or he loses value by not getting opportunities

 

[RandyHolt]

I wonder about Bowey. He may have been passed by Siggy sure but I consider them playing different positions. As soon as Orpik is named assistant, Siggy will be back at LD. As it is Djoos is our #3RD.

What are the long term plans for RH RD? Maybe that will shed some light. I more wonder if Hobbs has been the one to pass Bowey in the long term plan.

I think we will keep Bowey and Bura and follow the offseason plan to largely try to repeat with the same team. We'd be selling low on Bowey so he isn't going to fetch squat. Likely the same with Bura. Why bother.

Lets trade someone that other GMs think have more upside... someone not on our team currently, and release Jaskin to make room.

Maybe we need an ALL D depth chart, and then 2 separate LH and RH versions.

 

[Devil Dancer]

Is anyone untouchable, other than maybe Alex Alex?

 

[kicksavedave]

Is anyone untouchable, other than maybe Alex Alex?

Probably SamSOnov isn't going anywhere either.

 

[peterthegreat12]

I’d be surprised if Bowey is a part of this team next year so see if you can get something.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Other than Kempny, when or who was the last Capitals TDL pick up who actually contributed to the team?

Just looked at the Caps recent trade history and 2011 they did pick up Dennis Wideman, but 2008 was probably one of their best TDLs when they picked up Federov, Matt Cooke and Huet.

 

[Melkor]

Other than Kempny, when or who was the last Capitals TDL pick up who actually contributed to the team?

Fedorov and Huet I suppose. Winnik and Halak too if you can call it 'contributed' - both played relatively well but not much output for the team and Winnik was non existent in the playoffs.

 

[Melkor]

Siegenthaler, Johansen, Alexeev are untouchable IMO. Same goes for Priskie. Everyone else is easily available, depends on the return. Burakovsky, Bowey, Samsonov, Vanecek, all those mediocre F prospects, couple of useless 4th liners that somehow get the spot and do nothing - everyone of them should be available.

 

[Langway]

I wonder if AJF isn't in the bait bin after heading home (perhaps compared to a third rounder if they're shopping for depth only).

If not at the deadline then at the draft I'd likely deal Burakovsky and Bowey for more picks. Walker will also be Group VI UFA but they may want to keep those guys to help Hershey make the playoffs.

 

[Raikkonen]

Siege should have plenty of value if you think about it.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Draft and develop, draft and develop, draft and develop . . .

 

[Sam Spade]

Siegenthaler, Johansen, Alexeev are untouchable IMO. Same goes for Priskie. Everyone else is easily available, depends on the return. Burakovsky, Bowey, Samsonov, Vanecek, all those mediocre F prospects, couple of useless 4th liners that somehow get the spot and do nothing - everyone of them should be available.

There is zero chance Samsonov is available.

Draft and develop, draft and develop, draft and develop . . .

Yep, 16 of the 25 players that saw the ice in the playoffs last season were drafted and developed in house.

 

[Melkor]

There is zero chance Samsonov is available.

It's unlikely but depends on the potential return.

 

[Holtbyisms]

I wonder about Bowey. He may have been passed by Siggy sure but I consider them playing different positions. As soon as Orpik is named assistant, Siggy will be back at LD. As it is Djoos is our #3RD.

What are the long term plans for RH RD? Maybe that will shed some light. I more wonder if Hobbs has been the one to pass Bowey in the long term plan.

I think we will keep Bowey and Bura and follow the offseason plan to largely try to repeat with the same team. We'd be selling low on Bowey so he isn't going to fetch squat. Likely the same with Bura. Why bother.

Lets trade someone that other GMs think have more upside... someone not on our team currently, and release Jaskin to make room.

Maybe we need an ALL D depth chart, and then 2 separate LH and RH versions.

Bowey is a far superior player and prospect to hobbs. Not even close at this point.

I'd be surprised if Djoos doesn't go on the block at some point in the near future if they're truly that high on Seigenthaler to replace Orpik after this season. He's a legit third pairing guy not a tweener, he's young, can drive offense and is probably more valuable on the trade market than a lot of us ealize. That and the fact the left side is a pretty crowded place right now.

 

[hb12xchamps]

Hobbs a healthy scratch tonight for Hershey to “rest and reset and catch a game from the stands” whatever that means. He hasn’t been playing the greatest the past few games but it’s an interesting development. Maybe held out for a deal? Pure speculation on my part since it is that time of the year

Hershey’s pairs tonight:
Ness-Lewington
Geisser-Sproul
Johansen-Siegs

 

[maacoshark]

Probably SamSOnov isn't going anywhere either.

Why would Samsonov be untouchable?

 

[maacoshark]

Bowey is a far superior player and prospect to hobbs. Not even close at this point.

I'd be surprised if Djoos doesn't go on the block at some point in the near future if they're truly that high on Seigenthaler to replace Orpik after this season. He's a legit third pairing guy not a tweener, he's young, can drive offense and is probably more valuable on the trade market than a lot of us ealize. That and the fact the left side is a pretty crowded place right now.

I wouldnt count out Hobbs yet. He is still developing his game. He is only in his 2nd season in Hershey and has had to deal with injuries in both seasons.

 

[kicksavedave]

Why would Samsonov be untouchable?

I didn't day he is untouchable, I just don't see him being moved. He would be an expensive piece to sell so we would have to be getting something significant in return and I don't think GMBM is after anything significant right now.

If he's a sweetener in a Bura for XXX deal, that return seems a lot higher than just a modest 3LW rental and they don't have cap room for much else.

 

[maacoshark]

I didn't day he is untouchable, I just don't see him being moved. He would be an expensive piece to sell so we would have to be getting something significant in return and I don't think GMBM is after anything significant right now.

If he's a sweetener in a Bura for XXX deal, that return seems a lot higher than just a modest 3LW rental and they don't have cap room for much else.

I doubt he gets moved anytime soon but but it may be an option at some point

 

[kicksavedave]

I doubt he gets moved anytime soon but but it may be an option at some point

Well of course it's possible but I think he's the Caps #1 goalie of the future in the franchise eyes so that would be a major trade to fix a big hole, not a TDL tinkering.

 

[maacoshark]

Well of course it's possible but I think he's the Caps #1 goalie of the future in the franchise eyes so that would be a major trade to fix a big hole, not a TDL tinkering.

I'm not sure if he is or not. Goalie prospects are difficult to judge.

 

[txpd]

Is anyone untouchable, other than maybe Alex Alex?

Sure. Most of them are untouchable in any realistic sense. Show me a realistic scenario where Backstrom or Kuzy or Oshie or Carlson or Niskanen or Wilson get traded?

I think the number of players that might potential even be discussed between gms on the Caps roster can be counted on one hand

 

[Sam Spade]

Samsonov is the Capitals Vasilevskey, Holtby is the Ben Bishop in this situation. Seems pretty obvious to me.

They are not trading the best goalie not currently playing in the NHL unless someone offers them a game changing player.

 

[kicksavedave]

I'm not sure if he is or not. Goalie prospects are difficult to judge.

That's not the question. The issue is what do the Caps think about him and until we see anything different it seems obvious they are grooming him for the job when it's time to replace Holtby.

Whether he pans out at the NHL level is a whole different issue, and yeah, only time will tell.