MardyBum
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For the love of christ go take this to the Lowry thread
For the love of christ go take this to the Lowry thread
I'll take a defensively elite third line C that outscores top opposition over a higher scoring option that gives up more than he scores. You win by outscoring the opposition, and Lowry has been doing that consistently this season, while facing top 6 match-ups.Well not right now with the roster that the Jets have. But if the Jets would manage to get one more skilled quality center, it would be really good to have three real scoring lines and then Lowry’s shutdown line. I think that would kind of make Lowry’s line a 4th line. But definitely not in all situations, as the shutdown line could need to play in some games very much against some more offensively skilled teams.
But really, does anyone seriously believe that Lowry is offensively a good third line center for a team that is supposed to be a real Stanley Cup contender? I would say definitely not.
Get the roles right for each of your three scoring line’s players and you will not have to focus so much into turtling. I believe way more in very active and more offensively skilled hockey that focuses in very good and quick passing game and using great shooting and great goal scoring skills as much as possible. Sure you need to have some balance with defending too. But honestly many people still overemphasize the meaning of defence at the cost of having really better lines offensively AND defensively.I'll take a defensively elite third line C that outscores top opposition over a higher scoring option that gives up more than he scores. You win by outscoring the opposition, and Lowry has been doing that consistently this season, while facing top 6 match-ups.
Look at Shaw, Cizikas etc. to find the ballpark for his next deal. I have no doubt in my mind that Chevy will do his hardest to lock him up long-term, which would be good, but is this year an anomaly or not? That's a big question.So here's the big question...what do you give him for a contract this summer? Usually you don't go long term for a third line centre, but the organization loves him and there is no question he is one of the top defensive centres in the league. So what is a 30-point shutdown centre worth? 6 years at $3 million AAV?
Lowry and Copp are really underrated contributors for the Jets. They are so fundamentally strong on D, and really disrupt other teams in their own zone. You don't need to score a ton, you just need to outscore the opposition. If you can do that while facing top competition and being buried in your own zone for starts, that's huge.If you can lock Lowry up for 5 years at less the 3.5 per year you do it and be happy about it.
Him and Copp out there together just ate up Kucherov's line. The advantage of home ice and that line is so big for us right now. Honestly we might be thankful that those guys are not more prolific at scoring because they might cost us too much and we would have to let them go
I've noticed this too. It is noticeable how well he intercepts breakout passes in the neutral zone, and he uses his reach to his advantage on the forecheck as well. Moreover, as a 6'5" guy who is willing to play a very physical game, Lowry can do serious damage and wear out opponents. Also, we should not forget his strength, which helps along the boards where his line really does excel; all members of CLA are simply magnificent at freezing the game there and coming out of puck battles with the puck. Those are among the many reasons why Lowry has been so effective.Also, for those who tend to downplay size, if you ever watch Lowry closely you'll note how he uses his reach very effectively to disrupt plays and cut off passing lanes. That extra reach can really be an asset if used effectively, as he does. In high-level basketball scouts and coaches really place high value on players with extra "wingspan", mostly for their ability to give that extra coverage defensively on passing lanes (and shot attempts, of course). The same operates in hockey.
Look at Shaw, Cizikas etc. to find the ballpark for his next deal. I have no doubt in my mind that Chevy will do his hardest to lock him up long-term, which would be good, but is this year an anomaly or not? That's a big question.
I'd aim at 5x3.5. His offensive production should not warrant much more than that, but then again, that is not what you pay him for.
Contract year, a drastic improvement in play... what could go wrong?Don't know why you'd even ask (the bolded). He's either been like this or trending towards this for the previous 2 seasons.
I think it will be 5-6 years, about 3.5 mil, maybe 3.75
Contract year, a drastic improvement in play... what could go wrong?
Admittedly, young players carry less risk in that regard, but still...
He certainly wasn't this dominant last year. He was ok, as far as 3rd liners go, but nothing remarkable. He's been on a totally different level this season.Lowry, my second favorite after Armia. I agree on that "drastic improvement" horse ****. He has been good and very consistent, and annoingly undervalued for the last two and a half years.
You are killing it today Grieves!I agree, size is not only "being big", it is also having reach.
Lowry is great, and a really sexy man to boot.
He certainly wasn't this dominant last year. He was ok, as far as 3rd liners go, but nothing remarkable. He's been on a totally different level this season.
I think Lowry has gained a bit of a step this year from last and has also been much better at driving play and gaining the zone with control. Also think he has been better with his positioning to start the breakout than last season. A lot of little things he's been doing better is the difference I see.How much of that is the difference between Matthias and Copp? He lost Armia for much of this year but Tanev also helped, just in a totally different style. He has also had a better D pair behind him much of this year. That also helps.
I don't see any difference between Lowry last year and this year as an individual. Team play is better this year. He is part of that but also benefiting from that.