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Better Player: B. Marchand vs T. Fleury
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Marchand
Points: 3, 5, 5, 6
PPG: 4, 5, 5, 6, 9
Goals: 4, 6, 6
GPG: 5, 6, 6, 9
Hart: 5,5,7,9,11
Selke: 9, 9, 10, 12, 12
Team scoring placements
1st place: 6 times
2nd place: 5 times
3rd place:
Lead over teammates
2012-13: 3 points
2016-17: 15 points
2017-18: 5 points
2018-19: 19 points
2020-21: 20 points
2021-22: 3 points
Fleury
Points: 6, 7, 8
PPG: 6, 7, 7, 10
Goals: 2, 6, 7
GPG: 4, 8, 8
Hart: 5, 5
Selke: 5
Team scoring placements
1st place: 7 times
2nd place: 3 times
3rd place: 2 times
Point lead over next highest teammate
1990: 1 point
1992: 12 points
1994: 8 points
1995: 26 points
1996: 7 points
1997: 29 points
1998: 12 points
I actually expected Fleury to lead his team in scoring much more than Marchand. But they both lead their teams in scoring quite a bit with similar gaps over their teammates.
Fleury did not have a lot of help especially in those later years, so who knows how his production would look with similar linemates to Marchand... but then Marchand at times had a humongous point gap over one of Pastrnak and Bergeron, both of whom were better players than the forwards on Fleury's team. (For example, I'd say a 20 point lead over Pastrnak is more impressive than a 29 point lead over Stillman..)
And despite Marchand having the stronger supporting cast throughout their careers playing with Bergeron and Pastrnak, his hart record is still slightly better than Theo's.
But I think the decisive point in Marchand's favour is two way play. Idk what was up with Fleury's 5th place Selke finish, but he never got any votes for the award again
All in all, great poll and as close as 2 players can get. I'm leaning Marchand ever so slightly, but could be convinced otherwise.
Points: 3, 5, 5, 6
PPG: 4, 5, 5, 6, 9
Goals: 4, 6, 6
GPG: 5, 6, 6, 9
Hart: 5,5,7,9,11
Selke: 9, 9, 10, 12, 12
Team scoring placements
1st place: 6 times
2nd place: 5 times
3rd place:
Lead over teammates
2012-13: 3 points
2016-17: 15 points
2017-18: 5 points
2018-19: 19 points
2020-21: 20 points
2021-22: 3 points
Fleury
Points: 6, 7, 8
PPG: 6, 7, 7, 10
Goals: 2, 6, 7
GPG: 4, 8, 8
Hart: 5, 5
Selke: 5
Team scoring placements
1st place: 7 times
2nd place: 3 times
3rd place: 2 times
Point lead over next highest teammate
1990: 1 point
1992: 12 points
1994: 8 points
1995: 26 points
1996: 7 points
1997: 29 points
1998: 12 points
I actually expected Fleury to lead his team in scoring much more than Marchand. But they both lead their teams in scoring quite a bit with similar gaps over their teammates.
Fleury did not have a lot of help especially in those later years, so who knows how his production would look with similar linemates to Marchand... but then Marchand at times had a humongous point gap over one of Pastrnak and Bergeron, both of whom were better players than the forwards on Fleury's team. (For example, I'd say a 20 point lead over Pastrnak is more impressive than a 29 point lead over Stillman..)
And despite Marchand having the stronger supporting cast throughout their careers playing with Bergeron and Pastrnak, his hart record is still slightly better than Theo's.
But I think the decisive point in Marchand's favour is two way play. Idk what was up with Fleury's 5th place Selke finish, but he never got any votes for the award again
All in all, great poll and as close as 2 players can get. I'm leaning Marchand ever so slightly, but could be convinced otherwise.
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