Best skater 2000 to 2015

2000 to 2015 best skater


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The Nuge

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Jan 26, 2011
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I think it’s weird that Crosby doesn’t have much more of the votes. By nearly all accounts he is a top 10 player all time here. He was easily the best player in the world for two seasons and on pace in more.

Lidstrom is more often like a top 15 and his whole career isn’t in this time frame. Don’t think he was ever the best player in the world during this time either.

I’m more surprised Lidstrom isn’t higher. I’ve got Lidstrom and Crosby pretty much neck and neck in the top 10 (with Lidstrom barely higher), and Lidstrom won 7 Norris trophies during that timeframe. Him retiring before the end of this cutoff hurts his case a bit, but imo he was still the best
 

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Aug 24, 2011
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I'll make the case for Ovie here.

From the 05/06-14/15 seasons he...

-Won the Calder
-In 07/08 won the Hart, Ross, Richard, and Pearson which is a video game level of dominance in a season
-Won 3 Pearson trophies in a row, which the only other players in history to do that are Wayne Gretzky and Guy Lafleur
-Won 3 Harts and finished 2nd twice. The only players to win 3 or more Harts in hockey history are...Gretzky, Howe, Shore, Clark, Lemieux, McDavid, Morenz, and Orr
-Won the Richard 5 times which is already more than any two players in league history
-Is 7th in scoring from 2000-01 to 2014/15 despite playing 300+ less games than the people ahead of him. His PPG in that time frame is only behind Crosby and Malkin
-Is 2nd in goal scoring in that time frame behind only Iginla, and Ovie is only 23 goals behind despite having played 320 less games played.

Total Trophy Count: 13

Crosby has had the better career but in this particular time frame, before the Pens won their next two Cups and Crosby won his Smythe's, there was lot of talk about Crosby and Malkin's (relative) lack of success in the playoffs.

Aside from those two weird Dale Hunter years, Ovechkin was a force of nature in the league
 
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Dubi Doo

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Aug 27, 2008
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Voted Niedermayer but Crosby is right there as well.

Niedermayer was the best pure skater in the game for a decent length of time.
Am I crazy for thinking Lidstrom was quite a bit better than him in his prime? I was pretty young in 2000, so I"m genuinely asking. Lidstrom is still the best defenseman I've ever seen (that I actually watched play growing up).
 

tarheelhockey

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Feb 12, 2010
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Am I crazy for thinking Lidstrom was quite a bit better than him in his prime? I was pretty young in 2000, so I"m genuinely asking. Lidstrom is still the best defenseman I've ever seen (that I actually watched play growing up).

I took the question to mean literal “skater”, as in skating skill. Niedermayer was one of those guys like Coffey or Bouwmeester who is just next-level perfect on his skates.

As a “skater” meaning a player who isn’t a goalie, yes Lidstrom was the better player. There was a little window where Lidstrom slipped a little and Niedermayer had his peak, and it became a conversation. But that was a short-lived argument in the scheme of things.
 
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