Best player from 2006 draft?
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The don godfather
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BringTheReign
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Great poll. I went with Giroux because I think he has the best balance between arguably the highest 2-3 season peak and longevity. Backstrom never reached that "threat to win a Hart Trophy" level, IMO.
It's hard comparing centers to wingers, and as such I'm inclined to go Giroux - Backstrom/Toews - Marchand - Kessel. Marchand became elite later on, and Kessel could rarely be trusted consistently in all situations. The three centers you could throw over the boards in any situation during the majority of their careers as no doubt first-liners.
It's hard comparing centers to wingers, and as such I'm inclined to go Giroux - Backstrom/Toews - Marchand - Kessel. Marchand became elite later on, and Kessel could rarely be trusted consistently in all situations. The three centers you could throw over the boards in any situation during the majority of their careers as no doubt first-liners.
McPoyle
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Toews. He's received backlash for being overrated in the early-mid 2010's and now I feel many unnderrate him.
Empoleon8771
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I was about to post the same exact thing. He was so comically overrated at his best that people forget he was still a top-5 or top-10 player at his best. I don’t think anyone else on this list hit that level.
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I don’t think having Giroux or Backstrom in Toews place on the Hawks gives us 3 Cups. Probably even 0 Cups.
It’s as simple as that. Toews is the clear winner here
It’s as simple as that. Toews is the clear winner here
To be honest I never had him as a top 5 player. Borderline top 10. Absolutely overrated.
With that being said, I do think he had the most impressive career. He just won too much as a key member of his club and international teams for me to consider any of the other guys
Toews was terrific in his prime, I guess the main argument against him is not that he was overrated/underrated but that he fell off a cliff too early. I'm wondering how people balance peak/longevity in their evaluation of players careers.
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hamzarocks
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Giroux was top 5 player a few times (2011, 2014, 2018) coming 4th, 3rd, and 4th in hart voting
Cant say Toews was top 5 often, top 10ish at best
tarheelhockey
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Giroux
1189gp 353-720-1073 (.902)
Peaked as a top-3 assist and point scorer
One Finals run, no Cup
1x 2nd all star team, 1x Hart finalist
Giroux had the worst team situation by a significant margin, but hit the highest offensive peak in this group while also playing a solid 200 foot game, and having the versatility to move effectively from C to W. Swap his team context with one of the other players and this is probably not a thread.
Toews
1067gp, 372-511-883 (.828)
One-season peak at 5th in goals, otherwise not top 10
Three Finals runs, three Cups
1x 2nd all star team, Selke Trophy, Smythe Trophy
Lowest offensive caliber of the group, but he’s the clear-cut best 200 foot player and you can’t just brush off his performances at the highest stage. Gets a boost for his outstanding international career.
Marchand
1038gp 402-533-935 (.901)
Peaked as a top 4-6 goal, 5-10 assist, 3-5 point scorer
Three Finals runs, one Cup
2x 1st all star team, 2x 2nd all star team
Crazy to be rating him third, because he has been an elite player for a long time. He would have ranked higher if he weren’t such a late bloomer, which hurts his overall career value. He brought an edge that gives him value beyond his numbers.
Backstrom
1105gp 271-762-1033 (.935)
Peaked as a top-3 assist scorer, 4-10 range in points
One Finals run, one Cup
No significant personal hardware
Ranked him over Kessel because at the end of the day, points are points and he plays the more valuable position. But his numbers are obviously inflated by playing with the GOAT goal scorer.
Kessel
1286gp 413-579-992 (.771)
Peaked in the 5th-10th range in goals and points
Two Finals runs, two Cups (plus the Vegas Cup)
No significant personal hardware
Kessel as the 5th best player in a draft means it was a really good draft. A borderline HOF’er, decent two-way player while also a high-end offensive threat. On the down side, a soft winger with “character concerns” related to the NHL’s culture of shunning introverts. Bit of a compiler to get the regular season numbers he did, but also had a couple of very strong playoffs leading to Cups. Strong international career.
1189gp 353-720-1073 (.902)
Peaked as a top-3 assist and point scorer
One Finals run, no Cup
1x 2nd all star team, 1x Hart finalist
Giroux had the worst team situation by a significant margin, but hit the highest offensive peak in this group while also playing a solid 200 foot game, and having the versatility to move effectively from C to W. Swap his team context with one of the other players and this is probably not a thread.
Toews
1067gp, 372-511-883 (.828)
One-season peak at 5th in goals, otherwise not top 10
Three Finals runs, three Cups
1x 2nd all star team, Selke Trophy, Smythe Trophy
Lowest offensive caliber of the group, but he’s the clear-cut best 200 foot player and you can’t just brush off his performances at the highest stage. Gets a boost for his outstanding international career.
Marchand
1038gp 402-533-935 (.901)
Peaked as a top 4-6 goal, 5-10 assist, 3-5 point scorer
Three Finals runs, one Cup
2x 1st all star team, 2x 2nd all star team
Crazy to be rating him third, because he has been an elite player for a long time. He would have ranked higher if he weren’t such a late bloomer, which hurts his overall career value. He brought an edge that gives him value beyond his numbers.
Backstrom
1105gp 271-762-1033 (.935)
Peaked as a top-3 assist scorer, 4-10 range in points
One Finals run, one Cup
No significant personal hardware
Ranked him over Kessel because at the end of the day, points are points and he plays the more valuable position. But his numbers are obviously inflated by playing with the GOAT goal scorer.
Kessel
1286gp 413-579-992 (.771)
Peaked in the 5th-10th range in goals and points
Two Finals runs, two Cups (plus the Vegas Cup)
No significant personal hardware
Kessel as the 5th best player in a draft means it was a really good draft. A borderline HOF’er, decent two-way player while also a high-end offensive threat. On the down side, a soft winger with “character concerns” related to the NHL’s culture of shunning introverts. Bit of a compiler to get the regular season numbers he did, but also had a couple of very strong playoffs leading to Cups. Strong international career.
Between 16/17 and 19-20 Marchand was 3th in PPG while probably better than anyone in top 10 defensively.
