TheStatican
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Thank you and sure, that's a valid question. I did also look into Gretzky's firstInsanely detailed and impressive dive here as always. Not everyone may come away convinced on these things but your effort is truly incredible and commendable. Have to give you credit. Question though. The 14 extra games where WG’s pace drops is where my mind goes. What about if you take Gretzky’s 3 ppg first 57 games and where Lemieux’s ppg peaked this year (after game 58)? Or you can just take his full 60 game sample. Just curious about that because longer seasons cause things to dip.
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In addition to the 24 full games he missed, Lemieux also missed about 2 additional games worth of ice time when you include the all the games he left early in 1992-93 all of which is very clearly documented here;
A full accounting of Lemieux's missed partial games
It's well know that Mario Lemieux missed a lot of games over the course of his career due to injuries and illness, in total he missed almost exactly 1/3rd of all possible games he could have played in - 915 of 1382 and this doesn't included the seasons he skipped entirely. What is less well...
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Min | WG '84 | ML '93 | |
1 | 1 | 3 | |
2 | 3 | 7 | |
3 | 4 | 9 | |
4 | 5 | 14 | |
5 | 5 | 18 | |
6 | 6 | 20 | |
7 | 8 | 21 | |
8 | 13 | 24 | |
9 | 14 | 25 | |
10 | 18 | 27 | |
11 | 22 | 29 | |
12 | 25 | 30 | |
13 | 25 | 32 | |
14 | 28 | 33 | |
15 | 30 | 36 | |
16 | 33 | 38 | |
17 | 37 | 41 | |
18 | 39 | 45 | |
19 | 44 | 47 | |
20 | 51 | 51 | end of 1st period |
21 | 56 | 53 | |
22 | 59 | 57 | |
23 | 62 (64) | 59 | |
24 | 64 (66) | 64 | |
25 | 69 (71) | 65 | |
26 | 70 (72) | 68 | |
27 | 76 (76) | 72 | |
28 | 78 (80) | 75 | |
29 | 80 (82) | 78 | |
30 | 81 (83) | 82 | game half way point |
31 | 83 (85) | 82 | |
32 | 87 (89) | 84 | |
33 | 91 (93) | 88 | |
34 | 95 (97) | 95 | |
35 | 98 (100) | 101 | |
36 | 103 (105) | 104 | |
37 | 110 (112) | 107 | |
38 | 114 (116) | 110 | |
39 | 115 (118) | 114 | |
40 | 116 (119) | 119 | end of 2nd period |
41 | 117 (120) | 120 | |
42 | 121 (124) | 122 | |
43 | 124 (127) | 125 | |
44 | 124 (127) | 126 | |
45 | 125 (128) | 127 | |
46 | 128 (131) | 129 | |
47 | 130 (133) | 131 | |
48 | 132 (135) | 133 | |
49 | 132 (135) | 134 | |
50 | 132 (137) | 136 | halfway through 3rd |
51 | 138 (141) | 137 | |
52 | 143 (146) | 140 | |
53 | 144 (147) | 143 | |
54 | 144 (147) | 144 | |
55 | 146 (149) | 148 | |
56 | 150 (153) | 149 | |
57 | 152 (155) | 151 | |
58 | 154 (158) | 151 | |
59 | 159 (163) | 156 | |
60 | 170 (174) | 158 | |
61 | | | overtime |
62 | | | overtime |
63 | | 159 | overtime |
64 | 171 (175) | 160 | overtime |
65 | | | overtime |
Charted:
There's also some additional OT game time to consider but the difference between the two was less than 5 minutes. The Oilers had 29 minutes and change with Gretz scoring 1 additional point while while the Pens had 33 minutes and change of OT time with Mario scoring 2 points. They're exactly even up to the end of the first then essentially more or less identical all the way down until the 57th minute with Lemieux actually having a slight edge at the end of the 2nd and half way through the third before Gretzky pulls away at the very end of games by scoring a huge amount of points in blow outs. The 10 or so point difference between them comes down to Gretzky padding his stats by racking up 16 points in the final 2 minutes of blow out games in 83-84 (equates to a 8.30 ppg).
It could possibly be Orr as well. Of course it's pretty much impossible to fairly compare stats compiled by a forward to a defensemen. But with what he brought defensively in addition to his offense I do acknowledge that he's absolutely a valid candidate for top peak all-time. But no one else is even in the discussion.
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