Best case for Hall of Fame | Quick , Hellebuyck

[chris kontos]

If Roberto Luongo and his zero accomplishments gets in first ballot, these two should get in easily.

But luongo is a real funny guy...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Quick AINEC until Helle wins 4 rounds in a row.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

They are both going to be in the HHoF. Peak playoff Quick was about as good as it gets when it comes to goalies.

 

[qcal1427]

In season awards are popularity contests. The norris ia awarded yearly to the highest scoring defenseman- not the most defensively effective d man. Those awards are a farce.

And the Conn Smythe isn't which is why Crosby, Crosby, and Ovechkin won Smythes instead of Malkin, Kessel, and Kuznetsov

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Both will make it.

In the HFBoard top-60 goalies of all-time project from 2024 (not including this season), with goalies who played the bulk of their careers post 2000 here is where they finished:

5. Marty Brodeur
12. Henrik Lundqvist
15. Andrei Vasilevsky
19. Roberto Luongo
21. Carey Price
22. Connor Hellebuyck
34. Mikka Kiprusoff
36. Jonathan Quick
40. Sergei Brobrovsky
44. Pekka Rinne
47 Marc-Andre Fleury
49. Tukka Rask
50. Igor Shesterkin
53. Ryan Miller
55. Evgeni Nabokov
58. Tim Thomas
60 Braden Holtby

Overall, a great list with a lot of research and extensive discussion brought forth. I might be tempted to switch Kipper, Quick and Brobrovsky around, but overall this is pretty accurate. Quick is right where he belongs - around 8th for the post-2000s goalies.

 

[Grifter3511]

This, at his peak Quick was dominant where it matters, playoffs. Absolutely nobody is afraid of Hellebuyck come playoff time.

To answer the OP's question, the guy with 3 cups and a Smythe deserves the HHOF more

So neither of them?

 

[JKG33]

So neither of them?

What?

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I take both today over MAF.

 

[Grifter3511]

What?

Neither of them have 3 cups, which is what you were looking for.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Neither of them have 3 cups, which is what you were looking for.

Quick has 3 Cups, two with LA, one with Vegas.

 

[Grifter3511]

Quick has 3 Cups, two with LA, one with Vegas.

How could I possibly have forgotten the 10 games he played in Vegas. Silly me.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Quick easy. Hellebyuck is on his way but he is going to do more. Getting a Cup woud definitely move the needle quite a bit closer.,

 

[wraithsonwings]

I’d be shocked if Hellebuyck made it into the hall of fame.

Yup, clearly Hellebuyck's career is already over.

 

[GoldenSeal]

How could I possibly have forgotten the 10 games he played in Vegas. Silly me.

Same way it slipped your mind that Quick won the Cup and the Conn Smythe by carrying the team to the Cup. Did the same exact thing over again but didn't win the Conn the second time.

It's ok, I know how insignificant things like that can slip one's mind. I guess greatness is based only on the regular season where you play both top and bottom dwellers, let's ignore the playoffs because that's probably beneath us, right?

 

[Grifter3511]

Same way it slipped your mind that Quick won the Cup and the Conn Smythe by carrying the team to the Cup. Did the same exact thing over again but didn't win the Conn the second time.

It's ok, I know how insignificant things like that can slip one's mind. I guess greatness is based only on the regular season where you play both top and bottom dwellers, let's ignore the playoffs because that's probably beneath us, right?

Except I didn't forget about any of that? It was literally the '3rd Cup.'

But run whatever narrative you want for whatever purpose you're trying to impose.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Except I didn't forget about any of that? It was literally the '3rd Cup.'

But run whatever narrative you want for whatever purpose you're trying to impose.

Oh I was being sarcastic af to highlight that you're paying attention and wasn't aimed at you . The third Cup for Quick thrown is, is absolute trash.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Helle is pretty much Bob without the Cup and imo those two and Quick should go in. Helle is abit on the fence on paper but I've watched him play. Dialed in, the guy is terrifying.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Both can make it, but, at this point, I assume Quick is a lock.

 

[Kresnik]

I don't think Quick is Hall of Fame worthy tbh.

 

[Fantomas]

This post is a perfect example of an imbalance of dependance on purely statistics for player evaluation versus a balance of the eye test AND stats for eval.

You can use the eyetest when a player has a statistical case for the HOF. For example, Bobrovsky is statistically borderline for the HOF, so you can bring in the eye test and argue specifics.

Quick is not even close.

 

[JKG33]

Neither of them have 3 cups, which is what you were looking for.

Except Quick does

 

[Grifter3511]

Except Quick does

Yeah, we covered that already.

I forgot about his cup of coffee in Vegas.

Personally I'd call him a 2 cup winner and Conn symthe winner, and regardless he's a HHOF lock.

 

[Blitzkrug]

I think they both get in but Hellebuyck probably gets in first.

The numbers say he's already probably a shoo in given damn near every goalie that's won 2 (probably 3 by june) Vezinas are enshrined already.

 

[Machinehead]

Quick could retire yesterday and he's in easily.

 

[chris kontos]

You can use the eyetest when a player has a statistical case for the HOF. For example, Bobrovsky is statistically borderline for the HOF, so you can bring in the eye test and argue specifics.

Quick is not even close.

Theres a world full of idiots that think a numerical value can be placed on everything. Its pretty amusing in a tired sort of way