Best 98- and 99-born players in Ontario Junior A&B?
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Nice to have another voice...
Not sure why all the focus is on one player. any 99 who played in CCHL, no matter their success deserve a bone or two.
My view, how a player makes a climb up the hockey ladder is more important than from what level he came... I believe Ed jovanovski never played AAA and I'd say he's done well with his career.
80's are over and Ed Jovanovski would never be able to play in today's NHL.
How's he doing in today's NHL? He may have got to the dance but he doesn't know how to dance.......
I guess I should get my mullet cut!
Not sure your view on 'Jovocop' holds water. I'd say, NHL teams would be in queue to have him on their line-up... He was a great 2 way player who could dictate game flow every shift he was on the ice.
basically, he was a solid D-man and I miss that quality
He (like many other NHL players) were right for the times. Watch one of the old classic NHL games that CBC plays once in a while. The skating and speed is laughable.
God no. But when someone claims Jovo's skill level could not cut today's NHL, I was giving a point of reference to his "today's NHL"
So players like Orr, Gretzky, Messier, Bobby Hull etc... would never be able to play now?
None of them would be nearly as effective today and they were then. Do you really think Orr can cut a hole through centre ice today? Do you really think Hull and Messier would get away with all their dirty hockey today? Try and watch an old Gretzky game (when he played for LA). You will be shocked at how many times he hooks and clutch grabs guys.....
I understand your view, but Jovanovski could skate and dominate. Cowen has never come close to that.
so to bring this back to the thread. I one could argue, Oliver Castleman's numbers are the same as Dave Semenko when he played on Gretzky's line... but to be honest, that wouldn't be fair. Castleman isn't a plug... he can play, but his numbers were inflated.
We are in violent agreement. I loved Jovanoski, and he played Bantam House by the way...not just NOT AAA.
Indeed one could argue that. Who's the luckiest guys in the NHL right now? Probably Eichel and McDavid's line mates.....
back to the 99/98's in CCHL2
In my opinion;
D - Jacob Cuffley
D - Noah Rowe
D - Ryan Nielsen
D - Wyatt Villalta
Should get bigger props, since playing Defense, as a 16/17, is way harder than playing forward.
In my opinion;
D - Jacob Cuffley
D - Noah Rowe
D - Ryan Nielsen
D - Wyatt Villalta
Should get bigger props, since playing Defense, as a 16/17, is way harder than playing forward.
all 4 should easily move up to the next level next year, but time will tell if the power to be agree.
Some CCHL2 '98s who have yet to be mentioned:
Stittsville Royals:
Ryan Cullen and Cole Lavoie are both top 6 forwards and have been key contributors in the Royal's offense. Both play big minutes on the PP and PK.
James Redmond and Etienne Vivash are both key pieces in the deep back end of the Royal's. Vivash played with the Cumberland Grads Jr.A last year as a 16 y/o and Redmond has a very high potential but has been battling some injuries over the last 2 seasons.
Athens Aeros:
Anthony Scattolon and Eric Hulford have been carrying the bulk of the offence in the second half for the Aeros. Both have been underrated this season but have really proven themselves in the stretch going into playoffs.
Stittsville Royals:
Ryan Cullen and Cole Lavoie are both top 6 forwards and have been key contributors in the Royal's offense. Both play big minutes on the PP and PK.
James Redmond and Etienne Vivash are both key pieces in the deep back end of the Royal's. Vivash played with the Cumberland Grads Jr.A last year as a 16 y/o and Redmond has a very high potential but has been battling some injuries over the last 2 seasons.
Athens Aeros:
Anthony Scattolon and Eric Hulford have been carrying the bulk of the offence in the second half for the Aeros. Both have been underrated this season but have really proven themselves in the stretch going into playoffs.
It seems you're right.
Eric Hulford showed last night, he deserves some 'love'. He may have started the season slow, but he's putting up nice consistent numbers since January.
All this is telling some people is, the 99/98 playing in the CCHL2 are quality players and need to be not over looked.
Other than luck, anyone in CCHL2 who wants to go somewhere has to be tearing up the league.
I have not seen him play this year. Previous years his issues were speed, conditioning and work ethic. Skill was never the problem. If he has overcome those with maturity, good for him and maybe he will have a shot at CCHL.
I don't think so. It's tier 3 when you really think about it and that means a whole lot of work to get noticed and to climb the ladder.
I don't think it was harsh, or at least it was not intended to be. It was just where I thought he was at two years ago and it sounds like that is no longer the issue.
Certainly not a character assassination, more of just a "good for him" for improving...
I wasn't referring to your comment... all you said does make sense. I referred to 'The pylon's' generalization about all playing CCHL2... I totally disagree with his comment, but have already acknowledged that each is allowed their own view and rather than get into an argument, I will accept his views as his opinion and leave it at that.
