Bednar has to be fired right?

[Ulysses31]

outsider here. what are sakic's biggest gaffs?

 

[pelderhostiga]

I don't really have an opinion if Bednar should be fired or not. I just feel like Nichuskin effing up his personal life two years in a row at the worst possible time really affected the teams play and morale, especially last year when was playing the best hockey of his career and the Avs leading scorer in the playoffs. Maybe it's just an excuse, but for someone who wanted the Avs to win multiple cups after their first win, that is the thing that first springs to my mind about the last two years, not bad coaching.

 

[shadow1]

outsider here. what are sakic's biggest gaffs?

Sakic is no longer the GM, Chris MacFarland is. I'll give you the Cliff Notes version:

• Future Considerations <> Ryan Johansen
  • Ryan Johansen, 1st <> Sean Walker (gone via UFA)
• Bowen Byram <> Casey Mittelstadt
  • Casey Mittelstadt, 2nd, William Zellers <> 5th, Charlie Coyle (1p in 7gp vs DAL)
• Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, 1st, 3rd <> William Dufour, Brock Nelson (0g in 7gp vs DAL)

In other words, traded their two best trade chips (Byram, Ritchie) along with multiple 1sts and other picks for a big pile of nothing at the center position. And, oh yeah, traded away Mikko Rantanen, who just ripped them a new one in the most humiliating way possible.

 

[Jumptheshark]

For me the GM has more to answer for than the coach

 

[Bleedred]

The Avs could always look outside the box and go with somebody who is long overdue for a HC position: Leah Hextall. She knows a lot about hockey as she proves to us every week, and it is long past time to break the male HC bottleneck.

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I’m not sure if this is satire or not, but I’m not sure why you would pick her to be a head coach. There’s several women who have already broken into coaching, and she’s not one of them. So she’s like a bizarre choice to be the first ever woman head coach in the NHL.

I’m thinking this is probably satire.

 

[dirtydanglez]

bednar and chris macfarland should go. the avs gambled big and lost big. time to pay up.

 

[Bleedred]

I wonder how many people would dare blame Mackenzie Shitbag I mean Blackwood for his performance in the last 3 games? He certainly cost them game 5 and they won game 6 very much in spite of him. With several clunky goals allowed.

Maybe Oettinger outplaying him had something to do with it? Oettinger certainly didn’t have the better team in front of him and was missing his best defenseman the entire series.

 

[bleedgreen]

When these theories about blaming the coach come out, I usually find it a little suspect. Typically the coaching didn’t let someone down in a series, and there’s usually some perception about going on that’s completely fan invented and speculative.

Here, I don’t get it at all. Their best players weren’t their best players, they got a little lucky to make it through game six and Dallas was the better team. The Avs didn’t look that great to me this season. While they needed to add the depth the team that makes all those crazy moves at the deadline almost never wins. It changes the chemistry and even if that was needed it’s hard to make it all come together in time for the playoffs.

I didn’t see a poorly planned team, or one that lacked motivation. They just didn’t execute very well and Rantanen got out from the rock he was hiding under with his Superman suit on. That was a pretty epic comeback but I don’t see the coaches fault.

 

[Sky04]

He's gotten out of the 2nd once...lol

 

[HockeyVirus]

When these theories about blaming the coach come out, I usually find it a little suspect. Typically the coaching didn’t let someone down in a series, and there’s usually some perception about going on that’s completely fan invented and speculative.

Here, I don’t get it at all. Their best players weren’t their best players, they got a little lucky to make it through game six and Dallas was the better team. The Avs didn’t look that great to me this season. While they needed to add the depth the team that makes all those crazy moves at the deadline almost never wins. It changes the chemistry and even if that was needed it’s hard to make it all come together in time for the playoffs.

I didn’t see a poorly planned team, or one that lacked motivation. They just didn’t execute very well and Rantanen got out from the rock he was hiding under with his Superman suit on. That was a pretty epic comeback but I don’t see the coaches fault.

And whose job is it to get the best out of them? Bednar has gotten the best out of them 1 time in 9 tries.

 

[John Mandalorian]

And whose job is it to get the best out of them? Bednar has gotten the best out of them 1 time in 9 tries.

And Rantanen is so much superior to Marner.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

All depends on what MacKinnon wants

 

[Kegs]

What coaching error cost Colorado the series?

It’s easy to blame the coach and go from there. Coaches are always the first to go when things don’t go well. Coaching a pro team has to stressful knowing how easy it is to be fired.

 

[paragon]

Sakic is no longer the GM, Chris MacFarland is. I'll give you the Cliff Notes version:

• Future Considerations <> Ryan Johansen
  • Ryan Johansen, 1st <> Sean Walker (gone via UFA)
• Bowen Byram <> Casey Mittelstadt
  • Casey Mittelstadt, 2nd, William Zellers <> 5th, Charlie Coyle (1p in 7gp vs DAL)
• Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, 1st, 3rd <> William Dufour, Brock Nelson (0g in 7gp vs DAL)

In other words, traded their two best trade chips (Byram, Ritchie) along with multiple 1sts and other picks for a big pile of nothing at the center position. And, oh yeah, traded away Mikko Rantanen, who just ripped them a new one in the most humiliating way possible.

The whole scenario was also a self-inflicted problem. No need to waste resources looking for a 2nd line center, if they just re-signed Kadri. They haven't made 2nd round since they let him walk. Who cares if the Kadri deal might age poorly, they wasted the prime years of their core because they were cheap.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Since every NFL playoff game is basically a game 7, at least they have the Lions, who had a 9-playoff game losing streak

 

[MarotteMarauder]

What coaching error cost Colorado the series?

A 3 for 22 power play with Dallas #4 out with injury.

To not be able to muster a better plan of success is what doomed the Avs.

Not impressed with Bednar though many Hawk fans are clamoring for him.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The whole scenario was also a self-inflicted problem. No need to waste resources looking for a 2nd line center, if they just re-signed Kadri. They haven't made 2nd round since they let him walk. Who cares if the Kadri deal might age poorly, they wasted the prime years of their core because they were cheap.

They made it to the 2nd round last year but that doesn’t diminish the points you’re making.

 

[TheShape]

If Quenneville is available the Avs should definitely explore that, otherwise I don't know who out there is an upgrade on Bednar. Regardless, I think they could probably use a new voice.

 

[Murzu]

Yup, Bednar should go. We need new voices.

 

[PromisedLand]

The reason he is laughing is....

 

[PromisedLand]

in all the hullaballoo lets not forget the absolute TRASH NHL playoff seeding/match-up system. Avs/Dallas should have been a 2nd round or conference final match up and we could have avoided another oilers/kings match-up

Also no Heiskanen and Robertson for Dallas either for this series. Dallas is freakin' absolutely loaded if everyonen is healthy

 

[shaner8989]

Sakic gotta go.

Rantenen gone
Ritchie gone
First round choke job
Nelson and Necas combined for 1 goal
Coyle was useless

 

[PromisedLand]

Since every NFL playoff game is basically a game 7, at least they have the Lions, who had a 9-playoff game losing streak

HOLY SHIT thats quite a stat!

 

[Corrupt University]

I wonder how many people would dare blame Mackenzie Shitbag I mean Blackwood for his performance in the last 3 games? He certainly cost them game 5 and they won game 6 very much in spite of him. With several clunky goals allowed.

Maybe Oettinger outplaying him had something to do with it? Oettinger certainly didn’t have the better team in front of him and was missing his best defenseman the entire series.

Blackwood provided this team with goaltending good enough to win the cup and defiantly this series.

The Johnston bank shot and the sky high blocker goals were 2 silly goals but that was 1 game. The team in front of him just couldn't play hockey for 60 minutes. Ottenger was fantastic this series and outplayed Blackwood, yes, but the gsaX difference was only 0.9. The avs outshot Dallas all series, which means that the stars D were unreal. Bischel and Petrovic and Lindell ofc stepped up massively to move guys out from the front of the net so Ottenger could do his thing.

 

[bleedgreen]

And whose job is it to get the best out of them? Bednar has gotten the best out of them 1 time in 9 tries.

He can’t put the sweater on. I never understand the “coach didn’t get the best out of his guys” theory. It’s so soft, speculative and impossible to prove. “Well….they didn’t win so the coach must not have pushed the right buttons…”

Does Mackinnon strike you as a guy who can’t get up for big games without a really good pre game speech from his coach?

What exactly did Bednar do to dismantle Makar?

They didn’t have chemistry after adding a bunch of guys at the deadline plus Landy. They missed Rants. They need another good defenseman more than they needed two centers at the deadline imo. The Avs have struggled to build cup level depth since they won the cup. Even in the days of Sakic and Forsberg they had to rebuild the depth to win the second cup. It was years between those victories with a nearly completely different supporting cast than the first win.