Prospect Info: Bedard Topic 2

[statswatcher]

"gobecaway" sounds like an ancient mesopatamian temple complex we just unearthed after thousands of years.

 

[ColbyChaos]

"gobecaway" sounds like an ancient mesopatamian temple complex we just unearthed after thousands of years.

The Indiana Jones movie set in Gobecaway is gonna be so lit

 

[Mrfenn92]

"gobecaway" sounds like an ancient mesopatamian temple complex we just unearthed after thousands of years.

It’s what’s under the Giza pyramid

 

[hawksfan50]

5g 11a in last 27GP for Bedard...so far from Generational you should ratherx sk if this is acceptable to keep him up on top 2 lines ...for sure he must prove himself more productive than that next season...or he might get demoted to bottom lines.

When we drafted hom nobody expected he would have this much trouble scoring goals ...ol young and eookiexseason maybe...but wanted to see a progression sesson2 ..did not hapoen..This can't be his plateau..

Expect a Great Leap Forward next sesson else contemplation of trying hom cpuld be coming if the results against unremarkable.

 

[Hawkaholic]

if this is acceptable to keep him up on top 2 lines .

lol

 

[Hull2Roenick2Kane]

Bedard 13 points +4 last 12 games of the season. Hopefully something to build off of starting next year!

 

[WarriorofTime]

Unless Celebrini gets 5 points tomorrow, Bedard will have "quietly" had the most points for a U20 NHL player in the last 7 years (Laine had 70 points in 2017-18). Svechnikov played all 68 possible games in 2019-20 and had 61 points, which would project out to 73-74 points over 82 games with the same pace, but that's also not a guarantee.

 

[Praetorian Caps]

 

[bwanajamba]

Bedard 13 points +4 last 12 games of the season. Hopefully something to build off of starting next year!

Not to diminish the real struggles he had at times this year and the things he needs to work on to reach his potential, but this roughly coincides with actual NHL talent arriving on the team. The situation he was drafted into was always going to magnify the warts in his game and I get why people have grown frustrated, but when there is a decent supporting cast he is going to bloom into an elite elite player.

You can break his production dip this year into two awful 12 game stretches that were around a month each: the month leading up to Richardson getting fired (Oct 28-Nov 23) and the month after the Four Nations break (Feb 22-Mar 15).

Oct 28 - Nov 23: 12GP 0G 6A - 6 points, 9 pointless games
Feb 22 - Mar 15: 12GP 1G 2A - 3 points, 10 pointless games

Total: 24 GP 1G 8A - 9 points, 19 pointless games

Outside of those stretches? 58 GP 22G 36A - 58 points, 16 pointless games

Now, can you have those stretches from your best player? No, and they didn't happen for no reason. But the tale of the season isn't the prolonged disaster that it has been spun into.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

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Restart that generational talk

 

[Hawkaholic]

70pt season pace over first two seasons as a teenager with no real top 6 talent next to him for the majority of his career, playing on the 2nd worst team in the league.

 

[x Tame Impala]

70pt season pace over first two seasons as a teenager with no real top 6 talent next to him for the majority of his career, playing on the 2nd worst team in the league.

Plenty of room for growth based on his draft hype but there’s a lot to love in his game.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Stutzle is a guy 3 years ahead of Bedard and an example of a player that improved on his faceoffs, starting at Bedard's level and has worked his way up to respectable.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Stutzle is a guy 3 years ahead of Bedard and an example of a player that improved on his faceoffs, starting at Bedard's level and has worked his way up to respectable.

Bedards FO% since the beginning of Feb was 46.3%, took 259 draws

 

[pvr]

As the talent level increases around him, his game will shine.

Two biggest needs for improvement are skating and defensive awareness.

 

[LavalPhantom]

So what’s our take on this? It wasn’t only the eye test: Bedard was significantly slower this season.
Injury? Weight gain? Other?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

thats a big drop off from 23-24

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

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So what’s our take on this? It wasn’t only the eye test: Bedard was significantly slower this season.
Injury? Weight gain? Other?

The thing that stood out to me was that the first maybe 3-5 games this season I remember thinking to myself he looks noticeably quicker and that his acceleration looked a lot better.

But to me it literally only lasted those 3-5 games and then he immediately started looking sluggish out there.

No clue what's going on because it's not like he'd have been fatigued from just 3-5 games for it to drag him down the rest of the season. On the other hand at no point this regular season did I ever think he was dealing with a LBI either.

All that to say... I have no idea.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

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So what’s our take on this? It wasn’t only the eye test: Bedard was significantly slower this season.
Injury? Weight gain? Other?

I'm not questioning the veracity of these charts - I'm sure the stats guys know what they're doing and are accurately reporting the data points - but (1) it doesn't match what my eyes tell me, and (2) measuring 18 and 20 mph bursts is not the total picture of Bedard's speed or lack thereof.

I don't recall the first 5 games being any different than the season as a whole - which didn't seem like it was significantly different than the 2023/24 season. He simply doesn't have "pull away" speed - at all.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Guys I think he’s unhappy here

 

[bwanajamba]

Guys I think he’s unhappy here

That poor boy. They've brainwashed him

 

[Malagahawks]

So... Serious business. Do we try for that 4 year bridge contract at 8-9M AAV or just say "F it" & throw the bag at him after next season?

 

[BHFAN92]

So... Serious business. Do we try for that 4 year bridge contract at 8-9M AAV or just say "F it" & throw the bag at him after next season?

i would do 6 @10mil per

 

[BHawk21]

So... Serious business. Do we try for that 4 year bridge contract at 8-9M AAV or just say "F it" & throw the bag at him after next season?

Throw the bag if he will take it.

 

[ChiHawks10]

So... Serious business. Do we try for that 4 year bridge contract at 8-9M AAV or just say "F it" & throw the bag at him after next season?

I would say give him max term at 10m. Barring any major setbacks, that should be a steal for the life of the contract.