Beauty Hit by Tom Wilson on Carrier

[The Hanging Jowl]

The only thing relevant is was the head picked and/or was it the main point of contact.

Clearly the answer to both of those questions is no, even just looking at your screenshot.

If you slow the replay down it's clear most of force in the hit is delivered through Carrier's core/chest.

If Carrier suffered any head injury, it was more likely he sustained it due to the whiplash/hittig his head on the ice after it than due to him getting hit in the head.

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

 

[um]

Charging .. left his feet off the ice .. and to the head.

Textbook Tom Wilson hit , thank you NHL.

I feel bad for "hockey fans" who can't appreciate beautiful hits.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I wanna say it was borderline but idk man; this is the playoff hockey I grew up on, dude changed the series with one hit. Guys like this have and always will have insane value because of shit like this. Also think about the long 7 game series getting blasted by guys like this in the corners and having to take pucks away from big dudes like this in the corners just takes a toll.

 

[Stelio Kontos]

Nice hit Matheson’s defense on the goal right over was god awful LOL

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

Huh? I never said anything about the intent.

I mean it's clear as day, Wilson send's Carrier's center of mass and entire body flying. There's just no way the head absorbed the majority of that contact.

 

[CauZuki]

I wanna say it was borderline but idk man; this is the playoff hockey I grew up on, dude changed the series with one hit. Guys like this have and always will have insane value because of shit like this. Also think about the long 7 game series getting blasted by guys like this in the corners and having to take pucks away from big dudes like this in the corners just takes a toll.

My issue with it is that Habs were given penalties when laying playoff style hits under the guise of "interference" or some other made-up on the fly penalty.

While Wilson gets to do his thing and have an impact without costing his team 2 minutes or more.

You can't have one set of rules for one team and another for the opposing team.

I don't like to blame the refs , but they've been reckless these playoffs with their inconsistent calling of the game.

I won't speculate on my reasons why but at the bare minimum they should be neutral not influencing the outcome of games.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

Looks pretty legal to me. That's a textbook bodycheck in the center of the ice, separated player from puck, no retaliation.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

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My issue with it is that Habs were given penalties when laying playoff style hits under the guise of "interference" or some other made-up on the fly penalty.

While Wilson gets to do his thing and have an impact without costing his team 2 minutes or more.

You can't have one set of rules for one team and another for the opposing team.

I don't like to blame the refs , but they've been reckless these playoffs with their inconsistent calling of the game.

They should be neutral not influencing the outcome of games.

Nah you and Habs fan have a point that games officiating was a pathetic joke. I agree there just needs to be consistency both ways and let them boys play.

 

[BerthMania]

I'm not sure I know the distinction between a dirty hit and a ''good hockey hit'', I seem to be in the minority, but it seemed like Wilson's feet were off the ice + the point of contact was the head. Where am I wrong?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Huh? I never said anything about the intent.

I mean it's clear as day, Wilson send's Carrier's center of mass and entire body flying. There's just no way the head absorbed the majority of that contact.

Sorry when you said "Was the head picked" I assumed you meant intentionally. I disagree with your other point. You can have body contact even if the primary point of contact is the head. And I don't know about you, even if I'm only hit in the head, I'm still going down.

 

[Deestroyer]

I'm not sure I know the distinction between a dirty hit and a ''good hockey hit'', I seem to be in the minority, but it seemed like Wilson's feet were off the ice + the point of contact was the head. Where am I wrong?

Its basic physics, the momentum of the check can cause a player to bounce upwards after impact, causing their feet to momentarily leave the ice. Show me one hit players skate in the ice after a hit

 

[PlushMinus]

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

Try watching the entire hit rather than a screenshot that was deliberately agonised over frame by frame so a Habs fan could cry that it was a hit to the head

 

[SkinsFan09]

I'm not sure I know the distinction between a dirty hit and a ''good hockey hit'', I seem to be in the minority, but it seemed like Wilson's feet were off the ice + the point of contact was the head. Where am I wrong?

NHL fans have lost the plot with "feet off the ice". The point of that rule is to prohibit players from jumping into hits or literally launching themselves. When two 200 pound men collide at hockey speed, feet are going to come off the ice as a result at some point.

 

[mad4comp]

I'm not sure I know the distinction between a dirty hit and a ''good hockey hit'', I seem to be in the minority, but it seemed like Wilson's feet were off the ice + the point of contact was the head. Where am I wrong?

Do you know the difference between jumping before the hit and then being forced upwards after the hit?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Try watching the entire hit rather than a screenshot that was deliberately agonised over frame by frame so a Habs fan could cry that it was a hit to the head

FYI: I made that screenshot myself using the video of the whole hit before I saw anyone else's screenshots.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

FYI: I made that screenshot myself using the video of the whole hit before I saw anyone else's screenshots.

If the head was the PPOC it would have been thrown backwards in that frame…it’s not, it’s still nicely centered…the core was the PPOC, not the head.

It was VERY close, but it wasn’t a head shot.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

Nobody agrees with you. That should tell you something, especially when a player like Wilson who’s absolutely hated around here was involved

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

 

[Mattb124]

Suspension surely incoming, right?

I jest.

 

[Mattb124]

Your first point is not correct. The onus is on the hitter to ensure it's a legal check. The intent is not relevant, it's still the hitter's problem even if it didn't go as intended.

Your second point: I see a shoulder directly to the neck/jaw. I'm sure there's body contact too but it sure looks to me like the primary point of contact is neck and jaw. Sorry, not legal.

If you read the actual rule in the NHL rulebook, it is absolutely correct. 48.1 states "A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted." Wilson hit straight through the body and, while it appears there was head/neck contact, the salient point is the head was not picked.

The poster you quoted said nothing about intent.

 

[River Meadow]

The hit HEARD AROUND THE WORLD.

Might be the most beautiful hit I've ever seen, tbh.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

One of the most impactful hits I’ve ever seen. It literally sucked the life out of the loudest building in the league.

 

[Son of Nogatco]

Not a fan of the Caps or Wilson but I give credit to Wilson for his comments about perhaps him going too far at the end of the game 3, he owned that and came back and was a huge factor in game four and was very disciplined/effective.

Mark of a true leader IMO

 

[Son of Nogatco]

I won't speculate on my reasons why but at the bare minimum they should be neutral not influencing the outcome of games.

uh you should be speculating on them though. its total BS to claim there’s something underhanded going on, but then cop out on an explanation.

Might as well not say anything at all if you can’t be bothered to share your reasoning

 

[ijuka]

Pretty good, yes. Still think the league has not had very great hits ever since Dustin Byfuglien retired.