OT: Bears & NFL Talk 91

[No Fun Shogun]

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OT: - Bears & NFL Talk 90

Divisional round time. Continued from here: OT: - Bears & NFL Talk 89 - Nagy & Pace fired!

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[No Fun Shogun]

No shocker there, Mayfield would've had to have been horrible in the preseason to not get the starting gig.

Hope the Panthers shread the Browns.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

That is a shame for kid to lose out on his rookie year

 

[Malagahawks]

Glad to see Roquan back with the team. I'm not sure about this future marriage though, plenty of drama on his part during both Pace & Poles' tenure. Time will tell but all that matters now is that he learns the scheme & balls out.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Dazz Newsome, Lacale London, Julien Davenport, Bopete Keyes and Jake Bargas cut to reach the 80 man limit this week

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Well before my time, but he was the subject of, in my opinion, the best locker room photo ever.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Smokin' Len

 

[HeisenBaez]

Well before my time, but he was the subject of, in my opinion, the best locker room photo ever.

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Reminds me if those jay cutler don't care memes.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Fields had bad awareness of the pass rush there. Lucky to get to throw that away.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

After looking like shite on the 1st drive, Bears offense has looked great.

Fields made an incredible throw to Webster.

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

@Blackhawkswincup where u at?

 

[madgoat33]

3 down 20 to go. Bears super bowl lock.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Just noticed that Poles didn't even attempt to resign James Daniels, as mentioned in the latest Suntimes article about the Bears' final roster cuts. Daniels was considered "one of the most athletic offensive linemen coming into the league... Combine his terrific movement skills with long arms, and you have a player who projected very well at the next level." which he lived up to, in his four years with the Bears, per Steelers OG James Daniels considered among most underrated free agent signings

How does that jive with the alleged intention of Poles trying to remake the O-line "lighter" and "quicker" in the same Suntimes article? Was it just the 8.8 mil/yr (for 3 years) price tag that it took Pitt to sign the 24-yr old Daniels, making him the 7th highest paid at his position, or do we have another case of a GM trying to show he's "smarter" than his peers or at least predecessor (Pace), just like his predecessor often did with his GM moves? That, coupled with the dramas over the handling of Tevan Jenkins and the dealings with Roquan Smith, makes me think it doesn't so well for Poles as a GM.

 

[ClydeLee]

Just noticed that Poles didn't even attempt to resign James Daniels, as mentioned in the latest Suntimes article about the Bears' final roster cuts. Daniels was considered "one of the most athletic offensive linemen coming into the league... Combine his terrific movement skills with long arms, and you have a player who projected very well at the next level." which he lived up to, in his four years with the Bears, per Steelers OG James Daniels considered among most underrated free agent signings

How does that jive with the alleged intention of Poles trying to remake the O-line "lighter" and "quicker" in the same Suntimes article? Was it just the 8.8 mil/yr (for 3 years) price tag that it took Pitt to sign the 24-yr old Daniels, making him the 7th highest paid at his position, or do we have another case of a GM trying to show he's "smarter" than his peers or at least predecessor (Pace), just like his predecessor often did with his GM moves? That, coupled with the dramas over the handling of Tevan Jenkins and the dealings with Roquan Smith, makes me think it doesn't so well for Poles as a GM.

It's trying to be smarter not singing a guy you can know is seeking to be a top 10 paid guard not really top 10 worthy? Also undersized as was a notable issue here.

Seems weird to pull some 5 month old offseason signing post to make some random jump to points when the 1st thing you see Googling the guy is articles he's been bad at camp and in the preseason for Pittsburgh.

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[Blackhawkswincup]

- Ruggs was developing nicely as a #1 WR before he threw his life and career away getting behind wheel and taking an innocent life

- Jacobs has been good but injury prone and new regime not committing long-term to him as holdover of previous regime is not slight against Jacobs. Infact, he has chance to make them regret it this coming year and could parlay that into good $ with FA on horizon

- Abram is starting safety and progressing nicely again new regime that didn't draft him. Like Jacobs he will have chance to parlay a strong year into nice FA deal

There were certainly misses but these 3 were not misses and Gruden/Mayock couldn't foresee Ruggs throwing away his life and career by getting behind wheel and taking life

Should be noted while other GMs can't find any quality talent beyond round 1 Mayock/Gruden drafted several good players beyond 1st round during Raider tenure

In the end Gruden/Mayock had Raiders going in right direction and certainly a better team than the dumpster fire they inherited

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Illinihockey]

- Ruggs was developing nicely as a #1 WR before he threw his life and career away getting behind wheel and taking an innocent life

- Jacobs has been good but injury prone and new regime not committing long-term to him as holdover of previous regime is not slight against Jacobs. Infact, he has chance to make them regret it this coming year and could parlay that into good $ with FA on horizon

- Abram is starting safety and progressing nicely again new regime that didn't draft him. Like Jacobs he will have chance to parlay a strong year into nice FA deal

There were certainly misses but these 3 were not misses and Gruden/Mayock couldn't foresee Ruggs throwing away his life and career by getting behind wheel and taking life

Should be noted while other GMs can't find any quality talent beyond round 1 Mayock/Gruden drafted several good players beyond 1st round during Raider tenure

In the end Gruden/Mayock had Raiders going in right direction and certainly a better team than the dumpster fire they inherited

That’s a long way to say they f***ed up really badly

 

[Ben Grimm]

That’s a long way to say they f***ed up really badly

Agreed. I like the Raiders, but Gruden is barely .500 for his career (117-112), he never got them in the playoffs, and he and Mayock did a horrible job drafting as you can see in the posts above. 17th pick Leatherwood lasted 1 year.

 

[TLEH]

In the 2019 draft they had the 4th pick and they could have taken a wide arrange of very talented player but instead took a terrible player that everyone said was a terrible pick at the time.

So many other defenders they could have taken.

Then they took a RB in the first round which is just a terrible move that I expect two ancient bozos to make.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I'm going to say it now, iOL should be Leatherwood-Whitehair-Jenkins.

 

[ClydeLee]

I'm going to say it now, iOL should be Leatherwood-Whitehair-Jenkins.

Wasn't whitehair worse at center?

 

[Clownish]

Eberflus must still have an ear toward Indy since the Colts were hoping to stash Weatherford on their practice squad. They really liked him but apparently he's not a special teams guy and they need their bottom of the roster to be special teams players since their kickoff specialist is out for the season.

Apparently, the word on Leatherwood is that he hasn't developed much, not quick enough to play tackle, not big enough to play guard, and has trouble with snap counts? Good luck with that.