OT: Bears & NFL Talk 104 (2025 Draft edition)

[hawksrule]

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5x$265

$181 million in total guarantee

Did a double take for a second, because that’s a $1.325B contract.

 

[clydesdale line]

 

[Bourque]

Going rate for qb’s

For top 16 ones, yes. Is he really top 16?

 

[Mrfenn92]

For top 16 ones, yes. Is he really top 16?

Right there

 

[clydesdale line]

Guy isn't even that good. He owes half that contract to his teammates.

And the other half to his head coach. Good for him though. Going from Mr. Irrelevant to a multi millionaire for the rest of his life.

 

[StreetHawk]

Don’t see the bears giving up a first for him

I doubt a 30 year old DE would command a 1st. Contract wise, at best he should get 2 years guaranteed in the $50 - 55 mill range. Can add extra years and stuff to pump up the AAV but, that's the amount of real money he should expect to get given his age. He's not 27/28 like Garrett/Crosby.

As for compensation, probably a 2nd rounder and another pick, but man, not sure what Cincy is doing in holding onto him post draft if they aren't going to get him signed.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I doubt a 30 year old DE would command a 1st. Contract wise, at best he should get 2 years guaranteed in the $50 - 55 mill range. Can add extra years and stuff to pump up the AAV but, that's the amount of real money he should expect to get given his age. He's not 27/28 like Garrett/Crosby.

As for compensation, probably a 2nd rounder and another pick, but man, not sure what Cincy is doing in holding onto him post draft if they aren't going to get him signed.

It’s cinnci

 

[HeisenBaez]

Lol at Purdy' contract. Good on him to get his bag. With that said, Purdy with Shanahan equals tons of money but Purdy without Shanahan equals Gardner Minshew.

 

[Praetorian Caps]

No bloody way Caleb Williams would have played in the UFL. LOL at Carl for even considering that as an option.

From what a workmate told me if Chicago had drafted Caleb anyway he would have had to play a minimum of three years there before The Bears would have lost the rights to him and free to sign with whoever he wanted. So yeah there's no way Caleb would have gone for that.

 

[John Price]

 

[John Price]

 

[plasmonresonance]

I was actually expecting a little higher annual to re-sign Thuney. In a vacuum having both guards at $17.5 mil seems pricey but with having both tackles on rookie deals gives the Bears a bit of spending flexibility on the O-line.

 

[ClydeLee]

There's all this dumb news talk of Caleb's dad saying chicago is where qbs go to die... and Ben Johnson responding in some way.

I dont see enough people lambasting him for altering the true classic statement by Moose that Chicago is where Wide Receivers go to die.

 

[StreetHawk]

I was actually expecting a little higher annual to re-sign Thuney. In a vacuum having both guards at $17.5 mil seems pricey but with having both tackles on rookie deals gives the Bears a bit of spending flexibility on the O-line.

It's $16.75 mill per for the guaranteed money over the next 2 seasons. Thuney is past his "prime" years, but is still one of the better OG in the league. When you're over 30, like Martin last year, you aren't going to get the top of the market money that the guys coming off their rookie deal will get at age 26/27 when you are 30-32.

 

[Mrfenn92]

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Irsay loved people in a way that billionaires rarely do. His death is a loss for humanity.

 

[Bourque]

Qb Worst Td Percent In NFL History Minimum 500 Attempts | StatMuse

Kenny Pickett has the lowest career passing touchdown percentage by a quarterback when throwing 500+ pass attempts, at 2.0 percent.

www.statmuse.com

I don't understand today's NFL.

Mike Tomlin started the worst QB ever for 2 seasons. I had an odd kind of Seventies Kid "pride" before Pickett "broke" the Bears very own Gary Huff's record.

Rodgers has admitted he lied about being vaxxed endangering the wives and kids of Packers employees. He's only won one conference title ever! Low character.

Two years I posted that Rodgers was done in terms of being able to stay healthy and be a decent starter. People outside this forum were not happy with me.

Now the Steelers want to bring in a high character vet , a washed-up Rodgers, to start and the media (including ESPN) just accepts that as making sense and is talking about whether Cousins would be a good backup. I think Cousins is better than Rodgers, although that's not saying very much.

 

[Romang67]

Qb Worst Td Percent In NFL History Minimum 500 Attempts | StatMuse

Kenny Pickett has the lowest career passing touchdown percentage by a quarterback when throwing 500+ pass attempts, at 2.0 percent.

www.statmuse.com

I don't understand today's NFL.

Mike Tomlin started the worst QB ever for 2 seasons. I had an odd kind of Seventies Kid "pride" before Pickett "broke" the Bears very own Gary Huff's record.

Rodgers has admitted he lied about being vaxxed endangering the wives and kids of Packers employees. He's only won one conference title ever! Low character.

Two years I posted that Rodgers was done in terms of being able to stay healthy and be a decent starter. People outside this forum were not happy with me.

Now the Steelers want to bring in a high character vet , a washed-up Rodgers, to start and the media (including ESPN) just accepts that as making sense and is talking about whether Cousins would be a good backup. I think Cousins is better than Rodgers, although that's not saying very much.

I think Cousins is even more done than Rogers, otherwise I would agree that it makes more sense to bring him in. There were some tape-crunchers last year that pointed out that Cousins was so badly hobbled by his Achilles injury that the offensive game plan couldn't include outside zone runs in a certain direction (right or left, don't remember) because he literally couldn't consistently turn in the direction that required.

 

[Bourque]

... that the offensive game plan couldn't include outside zone runs in a certain direction (right or left, don't remember) because he literally couldn't consistently turn in the direction that required.

Good post. Although I don't agree with this, I've seen people who like Kyler Murray to be QB1 for the US flag football team because of his running. He's a great runner but he's not my top choice for QB1.

 

[Romang67]

Good post. Although I don't agree with this, I've seen people who like Kyler Murray to be QB1 for the US flag football team because of his running. He's a great runner but he's not my top choice for QB1.

Just to make it clear, it's not that they couldn't run Cousins (although they certainly couldn't do that either). It's that they couldn't draw up run plays for the running backs to a certain side because Cousins couldn't turn around in that direction and hand the ball off.

Unless he recovers dramatically from his injury in year 2, which could happen, Cousins is probably more done-done.

 

[Bourque]

Just to make it clear, it's not that they couldn't run Cousins (although they certainly couldn't do that either). ...

Your writing is incomprehensible to me.

 

[Pez68]

Your writing is incomprehensible to me.

When did you randomly decide to start posting on the Blackhawks' forum?

 

[bwanajamba]

Your writing is incomprehensible to me.

The segment of the post that you quoted is contextualized and therefore given a sensible meaning by the rest of the post. I hope this helps.

 

[Bourque]

Terry Bradshaw slams Steelers, Aaron Rodgers for quarterback situation

Former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw slammed his former team for its pursuit of Aaron Rodgers.

www.usatoday.com

I never thought I'd agree with a guy who has bet and lost more than $1M in a week on the NFL instead of donating to charity, but in this case I do.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

When did you randomly decide to start posting on the Blackhawks' forum?

I'm almost positive it's Wrigley. Random is kinda his thing.