OT: Bears & NFL Talk 104 (2025 Draft edition)

[Praetorian Caps]

I absolutely love how there's already a rivalry between Ben Johnson and Matt LaFluff.

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Oh that’s just rich.

Oh yes. I forgot that this is HF Boards where it is mandatory to agree with the opinions of like a have dozen posters who personally visited the Oracle at Delphi

 

[HeisenBaez]

I absolutely love how there's already a rivalry between Ben Johnson and Matt LaFluff.

It won't be a rivalry until the Bears can prove they can beat the Packers consistently.

 

[Sarava]

It won't be a rivalry until the Bears can prove they can beat the Packers consistently.

Oh I think it's one of the best rivalries in sports. The last 30ish years have sucked from the Bears side - but the emotions are still there on both sides. Clay Matthews didnt go up there with a Vikings dig...he went after the Bears. Seth Rollins introducing the 56th pick was pure gold.

I'm excited that hopefully better times are coming in this rivalry for us.

 

[HeisenBaez]

Oh I think it's one of the best rivalries in sports. The last 30ish years have sucked from the Bears side - but the emotions are still there on both sides. Clay Matthews didnt go up there with a Vikings dig...he went after the Bears. Seth Rollins introducing the 56th pick was pure gold.

I'm excited that hopefully better times are coming in this rivalry for us.

I get that it is a rivalry in name only. It has not felt like a rivalry to me for awhile. Det and Minnesota have felt more intense than the Packers.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

I have never really got rivalry vibes from Minnesota, and definitely not Detroit with how bad they were basically my entire near 40 year existence up until last few years.

No matter how great or awful either side of the rivalry is I will always hate the Packers and Blues.

 

[belfour30]

I have never really got rivalry vibes from Minnesota, and definitely not Detroit with how bad they were basically my entire near 40 year existence up until last few years.

No matter how great or awful either side of the rivalry is I will always hate the Packers and Blues.

Would not shock me if the Lions takes a step back without Johnson, similar to how the Falcons did when Shanahan left.

 

[Husky160019]

 

[Kurtosis]

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Warren sucks but I actually believe him on this.

 

[Husky160019]

Warren sucks but I actually believe him on this.

This looks like he confirmed a site.

 

[Crow]

Warren sucks but I actually believe him on this.

I almost made some old man upset comments here but I at least remember a time when I thought our corrupt politicians were competent. I’m worried for the future of this city

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Bears had a good draft. Excited to see Burden.

 

[Pez68]

I almost made some old man upset comments here but I at least remember a time when I thought our corrupt politicians were competent. I’m worried for the future of this city

Competent politicians anywhere seem to be a dying phenomenon.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Competent politicians anywhere seem to be a dying phenomenon.

Fresh frozen jumbo shrimp are awfully good.

 

[Crow]

This guy over here is eating live baby mice and all I have is steel cut oats

 

[Idionym]

I almost made some old man upset comments here but I at least remember a time when I thought our corrupt politicians were competent. I’m worried for the future of this city

The city's future is mostly bleak because of the "competent" corrupt politicians you yearn for.

 

[Husky160019]

The Bears have always had a battle with the Park District. At the same time the city is in trouble financially and it doesn't make Chicago's case any better. Warren probably wants to build this year or if not next year and if Chicago can't do it (which seems like they can't), Warren will probably build his Super Bowl stadium out in Arlington Heights. Kevins comment likely is the first move to break the lease at Soldier Field. I'm sure they could play at Northwestern for a year if it has to be that way.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Maybe our mayor can just raise property taxes again and we can keep the Bears

 

[Sarava]

It feels so close to Arlington Park happening.... but it also feels too good to be true. the burbs deserve something big like a Bears stadium. This is decades overdue.

 

[Idionym]

Maybe our mayor can just raise property taxes again and we can keep the Bears

I know you're half-joking but this entire saga is all because the Bears are throwing a fit that the State won't give them money. The Mayor has been by FAR their biggest advocate, he went down to Springfield last year with Bears money as his top priority (ahead of the CTA fiscal cliff, for example). Your dig should be directed at the Governor/State Legislature, not our Mayor who is advocating for state tax dollars going to a multi-billion dollar business.

 

[Pez68]

I know you're half-joking but this entire saga is all because the Bears are throwing a fit that the State won't give them money. The Mayor has been by FAR their biggest advocate, he went down to Springfield last year with Bears money as his top priority (ahead of the CTA fiscal cliff, for example). Your dig should be directed at the Governor/State Legislature, not our Mayor who is advocating for state tax dollars going to a multi-billion dollar business.

Raising taxes to pay for a stadium for billionaire owners is clownshoes, and I am glad we are finally done with this nonsense being accepted by residents. Illinois residents shouldn't be giving a dime to any of these teams for their stadiums. We don't get a profit share do we??

 

[Idionym]

Raising taxes to pay for a stadium for billionaire owners is clownshoes, and I am glad we are finally done with this nonsense being accepted by residents. Illinois residents shouldn't be giving a dime to any of these teams for their stadiums. We don't get a profit share do we??

We get a profit share for Soldier Field because it's Park District-owned. The money they're asking from the State for Arlington Heights would not be profit sharing (they're essentially asking for a special property tax cut, which effectively raises property taxes for everyone else in Cook County).

As I've said before, everyone who lives in Chicago should hope that the Bears stay in Soldier Field under the current terms and that the Bears need to invest their own money if they want any infrastructure changes. Anyone living in suburban Cook should be hoping the Bears move to Arlington and get the absolute worst-case assessed property value. If you're rooting against either of those things then you're rooting for your own taxes to go up.

 

[Mrfenn92]

My taxes are going to up anyway. Have to feed the machine that is the public school system. Even though there isn’t one worth a damn near me.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

The Bears have just handled the stadium situation hilariously poorly.

First, they bought the land without any deal in place, thereby eliminating any incentive for local tax support to try to woo them over.

Then they tried to reach out to the county and state for public funds, which were easy hard passes for Chicago politicians that didn't want to help the team move (and downstate politicians to get easy anti-Chicagoland cred).

Then they tried to get municipal funds, even though Arlington Heights is way too small to remotely offer meaningful financial incentives.

Then they were surprised at the county raising their property taxes, even though that should've been a no duh consequence.

And now they're stuck with a load of municipal and country parties that don't remotely buy anything that the team's selling, as they're clownshoes morons that are changing plans with regularity and it's just wasy go ignore them.

The only play they have left is to try to see if Indiana is willing go give funds for a stadium in Hammond or Gary or something, tbqh. But all that'd do is piss off a load of people.

 

[Husky160019]

Daily Herald reporter reports the Rolling Meadows Mayor said if Arlington builds, she will have to adapt to it.
Rolling Meadows/Arlington Park