Post-Game Talk: Be still my Oily heart

[McTonyBrar]

Man Gregor is so annoying it’s hard to listen to this guy

Guy is a complete f***ing moron with no brain. Just bias all over the place. Stauffer is much better to listen to and his insight actually makes SENSE

 

[McTonyBrar]

Okay understandable but it wasnt an accident that he had a great season

 

[LTIR]

All right run these numbers again when Nurse is without Bouchard

Line # 3 seems to be Nurse without Bouchard. Doesn't look good for Nurse

 

[ahmedou]

I remember reading for most of the GDT how bad Draisaitl has been.

Draisailt reading HFOilers:

 

[PitkanensGitch]

Okay understandable but it wasnt an accident that he had a great season

He pretty much had his worst season. His relative CORSI to teammates was horrific. He was our worst defender in terms of chances for/against. This should surprise nobody. He is sinking our team while on the ice. All the time.

 

[LTIR]

Is there a way in which we bring Stecher in and sit Nurse? Every metric and eye test reveals Nurse is hindering out club real bad. The rest of the D are doing all right. Kulak brings it every playoffs. Klingberg a huge surprise.

Can you make the lefts and rights work?

Fact that Nurse played close to half hour while Emberson saw literally no time on ice in OT concludes that what you want to happen is not happening..

Stecher would replace Emberson if anyone.

 

[PitkanensGitch]

Fact that Nurse played close to half hour while Emberson saw literally no time on ice in OT concludes that what you want to happen is not happening..

Stecher would replace Emberson if anyone.

Minutes played by the coach =/= playing effectively or well.

See Broberg.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

All strengths.

Do you know how to use that website?

Going by that logic

Ekholm only a +1 this year, Bouchard +58 in goal differential

 

[ahmedou]

You'll thought that Byfield would get the puck. But no.

It's Edmonton magic!

 

[LTIR]

Minutes played by the coach =/= playing effectively or well.

See Broberg.

I'll take coach's decisions over hfexperts anytime especially after a win.

Nurse getting scratched for Stecher is just a crazy hope. Nuge getting sat for Savoie would be comparable.

 

[frag2]

Just brutal lol Like what is Nurse actually good for aside from making a token snarl/glare on ice and being a horrible defenseman. In fact, one could argue he could be even worse than Skinner given his contract and expected impact

 

[ahmedou]

 

[Oilslick941611]

What in the heck? They listen to this song after a win? lolll

Odd choice

I am not even big into rock, but I would chuck on some AC/DC or some sh** that kind of hypes you up.

It’s a great song with a great chorus you can sing along with. It makes sense.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Just brutal lol Like what is Nurse actually good for aside from making a token snarl/glare on ice and being a horrible defenseman. In fact, one could argue he could be even worse than Skinner given his contract and expected impact

You’re aware that’s all strengths right?

It’s a lot harder to have a positive goal differential if you play no powerplay but top minutes on the PK

 

[bucks_oil]

These are results of game specific, unit specific matchups. I don't know that everything can be taken from such short sample stats.

Case in point. Kempe is tied for leading scorer in playoffs with McD and Drai. He's been the main feared player for the Kings. Probably their best player. But he's -5 in the series. Is he horrible or is he just getting some adverse matchup and game situation effects?

Stats like this were never meant to capture shorterm limited sample results. Thus any pretense that X player is horrible on such short sample is probably not substantiated.

These are overreactions. Nurse is not horrible, Booch is not horrible. etc.

This is exactly my point when members of the board argue about single-game SPCT. It's entirely based on the very specific circumstances of that game / those particular shots. One single goal can swing an SPCT from 0.850 to 0.900, so how can we claim one outcome is objectively bad and the other is objectively good without just looking at the goals themselves?

Any and all of these numbers need n-size to be "STATS", otherwise they are just datapoints.

 

[Arpeggio]

Seems kind of disingenuous to not show the expected numbers since you're pulling it up on Natural Stat Trick anyway.

Nurse's on ice sv% in this series is 0.829. He needs to play better, and he probably shouldn't be playing with Bouchard, but that's played a huge factor.

 

[Duke74]

Is it too late to bring back Yamamoto...

Arvidsson's twin...lol

 

[Wewillrise]

Has Picard ever lost a playoff game for the Oilers or period?

 

[frag2]

You’re aware that’s all strengths right?

It’s a lot harder to have a positive goal differential if you play no powerplay but top minutes on the PK

Yep. I see it in the drop down at the top. At the end of the day, he's been poor, very poor. I get the PK part being more difficult and more prone to having worse defensive metrics but he's a big reason its THAT bad

 

[bone]

It's amazing seeing Kempe do well in these series year after year, but I got thinking recently that it seems to be a thing early in a series and eventually the tide turns on him, so I dug into it for fun.

In Games 1 or 2 over the four years, he has 8 goals, 7 assists and 15 points and is +1 in just 8 games. In the other 14 games, he's 7 goals, 6 assists and 13 points and is a -15 overall but over 14 total games.

5 of his 8 multi point games have been in Game 1 or 2s. His only other three was a great 3 point overtime win in Game 5 of 2022 which was kind of his breakout playoff game, a 2 point night in a 6-3 loss Game 3 of 2023, and a 2 point night in a 7-4 loss on Friday.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Man what is the media on when it comes to the Hart Trophy voting?

I just heard Noodles on Overdrive said that he had Hellebuyck over Draisaitl because "Draisaitl didn't play the last 8 games of the season".

What the f*** is that sort of reasoning? Having a minor injury is disqualifying now?

 

[syz]

Arvidsson's twin...lol

No that's Yakupov.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[GreeningOil]

I love this man. 29 4 LYFE

 

[frag2]

Man what is the media on when it comes to the Hart Trophy voting?

I just heard Noodles on Overdrive said that he had Hellebuyck over Draisaitl because "Draisaitl didn't play the last 8 games of the season".

What the f*** is that sort of reasoning? Having a minor injury is disqualifying now?

Media will find a way to fit some BS narrative when it comes to awards they vote on.
Because narrative supersedes actual performance - its all about the stories and headlines