Proposal: Barrie for Kapanen+++

[glucker]

Based on needs we wouldn't too. It's still early I know but the way Graves has been playing lately that would be a lateral move to trade Barrie for a LHD as center piece that we don't need that much. Target someone like Nuge or something remotely good for our 2nd line other than that not interested I will gladly keep Barrie.

Which is all completely fair.

 

[ole ole]

Not really. Leafs wouldn't trade even if they added to kap or Johnson. At the end of the leafs wouldn't move them for pesce. One for one or if the leafs added. They wouldn't do it.

In terms of semantics it matters but not at the end of the day.

It's not nearly as big of a deal your making. And certainly not a "big" deal.

If it's not a big deal than why are you making this false claim in almost ever Leaf thread?

 

[34]

I also wouldn’t trade Sandin, Timashov and a 1st for Barrie.

No way.

Sandin is a good one.

 

[Liferleafer]

If it's not a big deal than why are you making this false claim in almost ever Leaf thread?

Well it's really sim.....checks user name of post i am about to respond to.....forget it.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Kapanen+++?

Uh...I wouldn't trade Kapanen for Barrie 1v1.
I realize that Barrie is more valuable but he is NOT the sort of defensemen the Leafs should be adding.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

To quote hfboards “but he’s never hit 60 points”

but he gave a range aka in between 2 numbers which would mean that to be between 2 numbers that the high-end number isn't hit. You're putting words into someone's mouth. he was called a 50-60 point defenceman. Barrie often scores between 50 and 60 points per season. The statement was completely accurate and valid.

 

[Rantanen The Goat]

I wouldn't trade Barrie for kapanen +. Barrie is a proven scorer and pp QB. He could easily return more than kasperi kapanen. Hes having a good season but hasn't shown he's even a 60 point player. Plays really well beside a Matthews though.

 

[slappipappi]

Kapenen is untouchable as per Dubas.

Than everyone must be untouchable in Toronto.

 

[bansheebeat]

It's not that everyone is untouchable in Toronto. It's that we already have a Barrie in Gardiner and there are about zero Leaf fans who value Gardiner more than Kapanen.

 

[joe dirte]

Than everyone must be untouchable in Toronto.

If you were the Leafs GM, would you target a puck moving defenseman that would be redundant as they have 1 better, and another just as good (arguably better as well), who is going into the last year of his contract, for a young cost controlled solid 2 way player?

Kapanen is a solid hockey player. And he's very young. Untouchable? No, not in my books at all. But if I'm trading him for a 27 year old dman nearing the end of his contract, he'd have to be better than Barrie, and quite frankly, a better fit. for example, Muzzin (i.e. another dman like him, preferably one that plays right, would be a better idea)....

 

[exporta]

No thank you.

 

[Papa Francouz]

This would not be very good value for the Avs.

 

[jrgtml67]

Than everyone must be untouchable in Toronto.

Lol ok? Our gm said kapanen and sandin were unavailable via trade. How does that mean everyone

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

If it's not a big deal than why are you making this false claim in almost ever Leaf thread?

I have never made this claim even once in any thread. What are you talking about?

 

[ole ole]

I have never made this claim even once in any thread. What are you talking about?

Sorry,meant to say why does ViewsFromThe6ix make the claim all the time.

 

[mitchthemitch]

It's not that everyone is untouchable in Toronto. It's that we already have a Barrie in Gardiner and there are about zero Leaf fans who value Gardiner more than Kapanen.

make that one

 

[FerrisRox]

No way.

Dubas wouldn't trade Kapanen for Pesce, what makes you think he'd add to Kapanen to get Barrie?

Do you really believe Dubas wouldn't trade Kapanen for Pesce? If he turned that deal down he's a fool and he's holding his team back.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Sorry,meant to say why does ViewsFromThe6ix make the claim all the time.

Oh ok.

 

[bansheebeat]

make that one

Name checks out

 

[mitchthemitch]

Name checks out

Yeah I am stupid for valuing a legit top 4 D more than a third liner

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Do you really believe Dubas wouldn't trade Kapanen for Pesce? If he turned that deal down he's a fool and he's holding his team back.

Kapanen is playing like a first line winger. I wouldn't trade him. Neither would Dubas. Don't believe me, believe Bobby Mac.

 

[FerrisRox]

Kapanen is playing like a first line winger. I wouldn't trade him. Neither would Dubas. Don't believe me, believe Bobby Mac.

Cool.

The last thing the Leafs need is more offence. What they desperately need to have any chance of moving from pretender to contender is a blue liner like Pesce.

If the GM is too stupid to deal from strength to address weakness, that's a fatal flaw.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Than everyone must be untouchable in Toronto.

No, not everyone. I also believe the player's that are the "untouchables" are for rentals.

 

[glucker]

but he gave a range aka in between 2 numbers which would mean that to be between 2 numbers that the high-end number isn't hit. You're putting words into someone's mouth. he was called a 50-60 point defenceman. Barrie often scores between 50 and 60 points per season. The statement was completely accurate and valid.

I wouldn't call twice in 6 seasons "often".



I get and agree with the sentiment, don't get me wrong. I just find the double standard hilarious, is all.

 

[Perratrooper]

Kapanen is playing like a first line winger. I wouldn't trade him. Neither would Dubas. Don't believe me, believe Bobby Mac.

He's on pace for 50-55 points, not sure that's first line winger stats this year with how scoring is up. To go along with that he's playing with some very high skilled teammates, which likely inflate his offensive numbers. I get that he is good in his own zone too, but I think he's played like a second line winger. Now that's nothing to scoff at, but is also quite a ways away from being a legitimate first line winger. Now in terms of trading him I personally believe Toronto should make a move to trade a forward, whether that is Kap or not I'm not sure, but I don't think an offensive defense man should be their target.