Barracuda News & Discussion VII

[jarr92]

Safe to say nobody in tonight's lineup has a NHL future.

I know you're trolling but Cagnoni and Cardwell have a decent shot at an NHL future, even as a #6-7 dman for Cagnoni or bottom 6er for Cardwell. I think you're underrating Cagnoni a bit. It's not easy for a small rookie dman to put up his current numbers in the AHL. He's only 3 points off the league lead for dman in the AHL in his 19-20 year old season, while playing decent defensively. I'd imagine he's done just about everything GMMG has asked of him.

 

[Hodge]

I know you're trolling but Cagnoni and Cardwell have a decent shot at an NHL future, even as a #6-7 dman for Cagnoni or bottom 6er for Cardwell. I think you're underrating Cagnoni a bit. It's not easy for a small rookie dman to put up his current numbers in the AHL. He's only 3 points off the league lead for dman in the AHL in his 19-20 year old season, while playing decent defensively. I'd imagine he's done just about everything GMMG has asked of him.

I'm not trolling. The vast majority of his points have been scored on the power play. I don't really care how he's playing defensively in the AHL because his size and speed disadvantages will not be exploited by AHL forwards the way they will be in the NHL.

Maybe Cardwell can carve out a career as a 4th liner but ideally you'd like a bigger forward in that role.

 

[OrrNumber4]

I'm not trolling. The vast majority of his points have been scored on the power play. I don't really care how he's playing defensively in the AHL because his size and speed disadvantages will not be exploited by AHL forwards the way they will be in the NHL.

Isn't that the case for most offensive defenseman? Dan Boyle made it work...

 

[gaucholoco3]

Isn't that the case for most offensive defenseman? Dan Boyle made it work...

Dan Boyle is 5’11”. I keep going back to the fact that there are only 3 D in the league listed at 5’9. I’m not saying an inch matters that much but players listed at 5’9” are likely shorter. Cagnoni has incredibly long odds to carve out an NHL career. It is encouraging what he has done so far but there is a reason many players are great in the AHL and can’t make it in the NHL. I hope he makes it but I’m not penciling him in a Sharks lineup until he demonstrates he can defend in the NHL.

 

[Hodge]

Isn't that the case for most offensive defenseman? Dan Boyle made it work...

For every Dan Boyle there are ten Ty Smiths, Adam Boqvists, Ryan Merkleys, Erik Brannstroms, etc. And as @gaucholoco3 pointed out all of these guys are bigger than Cagnoni.

 

[jarr92]

For every Dan Boyle there are ten Ty Smiths, Adam Boqvists, Ryan Merkleys, Erik Brannstroms, etc. And as @gaucholoco3 pointed out all of these guys are bigger than Cagnoni.

Well Merkley was clearly terrible, but I'd say the rest of those guys had/have NHL careers. Not arguing that he will be great.

 

[one2gamble]

Dan Boyle is 5’11”

in heels

 

[OrrNumber4]

in heels

Was going to say! Though perhaps Cagnoni's size is also exaggerated...

 

[Hodge]

Well Merkley was clearly terrible, but I'd say the rest of those guys had/have NHL careers. Not arguing that he will be great.

They're all terrible. This player type just isn't valuable in today's game.

 

[jarr92]

They're all terrible. This player type just isn't valuable in today's game.

I'm not arguing their value. Simply that almost any 19-20 year old dman nearing leading the AHL in scoring will probably get a couple chances in the NHL.