Confirmed with Link: Bannister Out, Monty In

It's 7 games. Very, very likely it was a good decision, but it's 7 games. The true answer won't be known for years. All very, very early signs point to yes, it was a great move.
I disagree. What will we know 3 years from now about the contrast in these coaches that we don’t know now? We will never know how Bannister’s team would have done. No new data is coming there to avoid the need for extrapolating our comparison.

You’d be able to give the same kind of guarded response then about how we can’t really compare because we don’t know how Bannister would have fared.

I call BS. His Buchnevich experiment was failing. Fixed almost immediately. Bolduc was languishing. Already looks more purposeful and growing in confidence. The team was subjectively dull to watch. Even when losing, this team plays a more stimulating and inspiring style that endorsed players making skilled plays, rather than fearing what the other team will do.

I already thought Montgomery was a great coach, but his ability to bring young talent along is the ticking clock that forced Armstrong’s hand.
 
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I disagree. What will we know 3 years from now about the contrast in these coaches that we don’t know now? We will never know how Bannister’s team would have done. No new data is coming there to avoid the need for extrapolating our comparison.

You’d be able to give the same kind of guarded response then about how we can’t really compare because we don’t know how Bannister would have fared.

I call BS. His Buchnevich experiment was failing. Fixed almost immediately. Bolduc was languishing. Already looks more purposeful and growing in confidence. The team was subjectively dull to watch. Even when losing, this team plays a more stimulating and inspiring style that endorsed players making skilled plays, rather than fearing what the other team will do.

I already thought Montgomery was a great coach, but his ability to bring young talent along is the ticking clock that forced Armstrong’s hand.

Bannister could catch on elsewhere. Monty could have a short shelf life and we regret the 5 years. Montgomery hire came right in line with Thomas coming back which allowed Monty to move Buch off of C. And that was an Armstrong directive, not Bannister.

If you think tge emergence if the kids is because of anything Monty taught in 2 weeks, shrug. Bannister has been working with Bokduc for years. Sure, Monty gave him more leash, but Bannister taught him how to be a pro.
 
Bannister could catch on elsewhere. Monty could have a short shelf life and we regret the 5 years. Montgomery hire came right in line with Thomas coming back which allowed Monty to move Buch off of C. And that was an Armstrong directive, not Bannister.

If you think tge emergence if the kids is because of anything Monty taught in 2 weeks, shrug. Bannister has been working with Bokduc for years. Sure, Monty gave him more leash, but Bannister taught him how to be a pro.
Another lame duck post.

I hear the Pensacola Ice Flyers are looking for a new head coach.
 
Win/loss matter doesn't mean shit to me this year. All I want is to see the continual growth of Holloway, Bolduc, Broberg, Neighbours, Thomas, and Kyrou. And Dvo and Snuggy when they get here later this year.
I'd add Perunovich. That guy is fighting for his NHL life and we should take advantage of this. Also, he's only 26.

Dear Scotty P,

We all wanted you gone, but now we might wanna keep you, so continue playing well.

Sincerely,

CB
 
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Bannister could catch on elsewhere. Monty could have a short shelf life and we regret the 5 years. Montgomery hire came right in line with Thomas coming back which allowed Monty to move Buch off of C. And that was an Armstrong directive, not Bannister.

If you think tge emergence if the kids is because of anything Monty taught in 2 weeks, shrug. Bannister has been working with Bokduc for years. Sure, Monty gave him more leash, but Bannister taught him how to be a pro.
Bannister was the one banishing Bolduc to the press box regularly, and effectively made him the scapegoat for the 8-1 Washington thrashing when he was one of the few players who didn't quit.

To pretend that Bannister wasn't actively hurting Bolduc's progression is a laughable re-imagining of history. Bolduc has looked reborn under Monty, because he can finally go out and play without worrying about some bullshit minor mistake getting him dressed in street clothes the following game.
 
Bannister was the one banishing Bolduc to the press box regularly, and effectively made him the scapegoat for the 8-1 Washington thrashing when he was one of the few players who didn't quit.

To pretend that Bannister wasn't actively hurting Bolduc's progression is a laughable re-imagining of history. Bolduc has looked reborn under Monty, because he can finally go out and play without worrying about some bullshit minor mistake getting him dressed in street clothes the following game.

I agree Bannister wasn't playing Bolduc enough. But he didn't scapegoat him. He press-boxed him, but we don't know he was saying behind the scenes. I'd assume he was bringing him along sliwly and giving him things to think about and watch while in presser.

Bannister was Bolduc's coach for Bolduc's whole pro career up to now. To not give Bannister any credit and give it all to his coach for the last 2 weeks is insane. Developing a player involves a ton more than just giving him playing time.
 
Monty was never going to be able to fix this team overnight and he wasn't brought in to do that either. Just like Fowler wasn't brought in to Fix the Defense. He was brought in so he could eat minutes and so we were not Overplaying players like Grandpa and Broberg on a night in and night out basis.
 
He was a problem for sure but the roster is still the roster. Monty was brought in for the future not to save this season

But according to the meltdown in the GDT last night, he can't get solid effort/play from Thomas, Buchnevich, Neighbours, Faulk now. Broberg has regressed under him as well. How does that bode for the future? We may have the talent in our system to replace and improve on guys like Saad and sundqvust, but we need Thomas to be Thomas,a 1C, to have any shot at success. If he and Buch are struggling now under Minty, how do we win later?

And how come Bannister does not get the excuse of the roster is the roster when he had a worse roster than Monty (injured Thomas, injured Broberg, no Fowler)?
 
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But according to the meltdown in the GDT last night, he can't get solid effort/play from Thomas, Buchnevich, Neighbours, Faulk now. Broberg has regressed under him as well. How does that bode for the future? We may have the talent in our system to replace and improve on guys like Saad and sundqvust, but we need Thomas to be Thomas,a 1C, to have any shot at success. If he and Buch are struggling now under Minty, how do we win later?

And how come Bannister does not get the excuse of the roster is the roster when he had a worse roster than Monty (injured Thomas, injured Broberg, no Fowler)?
Thomas had 9 points in 10 games and was -5 under Bannister this year. He had 59 points in 54 games and was +3 under Bannister last year. He has 27 points in 29 games and is +7 under Monty this year. That's a 75 point pace. Thomas has one 3 game scoreless stretch this season and it came under Bannister.

He absolutely hasn't been good enough in the last 8 games. but in the 21 previous games under Monty he was incredibly good (39 goal, 93 point pace). I very much don't believe that a bad 8 games is suggestive of things not working with the coach long term. FWIW, he had a terrible 4 weeks under Bannister last year from 3/4-4/1 (3 goals, 5 points, -6 in 15 games), but unsurprisingly wasn't broken as a player.

I resoundingly disagree with the premise that Thomas hasn't been Thomas under Monty.

I also very, very much disagree that Neighbours and Broberg haven't been playing well under Monty.
 

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